Graal Forums  

Go Back   Graal Forums > PlayerWorlds > Era Main Forum
FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-24-2014, 10:28 PM
Godzilla Godzilla is offline
Banned
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 450
Godzilla has a spectacular aura about
Maybe some of the lower tier weapons released could be purchased with achievement coins, helping the newer players out a little bit.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-24-2014, 11:53 PM
Conqueror Conqueror is offline
Da conq
Conqueror's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 364
Conqueror is a splendid one to beholdConqueror is a splendid one to beholdConqueror is a splendid one to beholdConqueror is a splendid one to behold
An up-to-date spreadsheet of all guns would be sweet if there's one available! I recently started playing again and I'd love to be able to compare all gun options.

I know you can type the name of each gun into the server individually to check stats, but I don't know the names of all the guns

I think there was a live document on google docs or something at one point in time. Can't seem to find it though.
__________________
_________________________________________

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-24-2014, 11:57 PM
Supaman771 Supaman771 is offline
Posting The Truth
Supaman771's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,694
Supaman771 is a glorious beacon of lightSupaman771 is a glorious beacon of lightSupaman771 is a glorious beacon of light
Quote:
Originally Posted by Conqueror View Post
I know you can type the name of each gun into the server individually to check stats, but I don't know the names of all the guns
Could also go to the pawn-shop guy and go through clicking each gun and hitting 'Stats'.

This won't work for the handful of EC/MVP guns though.

Idk, all the links to spreadsheets I have are out of date.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-25-2014, 07:48 PM
Fiberwyre_P2P Fiberwyre_P2P is offline
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 471
Fiberwyre_P2P will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Conqueror View Post
An up-to-date spreadsheet of all guns would be sweet if there's one available! I recently started playing again and I'd love to be able to compare all gun options.

I know you can type the name of each gun into the server individually to check stats, but I don't know the names of all the guns

I think there was a live document on google docs or something at one point in time. Can't seem to find it though.
You might be talking about this:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...rive_web#gid=0

but, yeah, it's as of 1.5 years ago lol.
__________________
Merp
Merp
Merp
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-27-2014, 11:20 AM
Conqueror Conqueror is offline
Da conq
Conqueror's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 364
Conqueror is a splendid one to beholdConqueror is a splendid one to beholdConqueror is a splendid one to beholdConqueror is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P View Post
You might be talking about this:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...rive_web#gid=0

but, yeah, it's as of 1.5 years ago lol.
That's it! Though I don't remember all the pricing graphs and whatnot. And I have no idea what a Legendary MS is xd. Sounds legendary!
__________________
_________________________________________

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-25-2014, 03:48 AM
TheLinkMan2002 TheLinkMan2002 is offline
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 231
TheLinkMan2002 will become famous soon enough
Could you not copy the stats for spread from a similar gun like say ove for example? or is the sytem working the weapon that much different that even setting spread isn't uniform? I noticed you removed spread and i agree with that option until you figure it out. I personally like guns with low-no spread but i know the average player base doesn't. Just curious if you are still tweaking it and it is meant to have spread, or not? Just so i know what to expect since i plan on maining the gun for a while. Just waiting to see what the next set of releases brings to the table for my off hand gun. Sable is really good in the right hands but apparently those hands aren't mine so i sold it to seth :3.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-25-2014, 03:57 AM
Supaman771 Supaman771 is offline
Posting The Truth
Supaman771's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,694
Supaman771 is a glorious beacon of lightSupaman771 is a glorious beacon of lightSupaman771 is a glorious beacon of light
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLinkMan2002 View Post
Could you not copy the stats for spread from a similar gun like say ove for example?
No; the majority of guns on Era join to the weapons class and you just set variables with the numbers you see when you ask the NPC-Server for stats.

Tempest and Crizen's functionalities are all manually done in the weapon itself. I figured out where/how to modify the spread but I can't figure out how to make it exactly the same for all 4 directions, currently it's just shooting straight.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-25-2014, 04:46 AM
TheLinkMan2002 TheLinkMan2002 is offline
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 231
TheLinkMan2002 will become famous soon enough
Honestly it's fine shooting straight. I think it fits well when compared to Mp5sd. Mp5sd is the same firerate but full auto, 19 damage, fast reload and 30 shot clip. Tempest is semi auto, same firerate, 20 damage, regenerate-able clip. Having and mvp gun at which it pretty much matches with is probably a good thing balance wise. If you let it get too out of hand we are just going back down a dark path again anyways. As it sits now with the tweaks to energy regen and consumption it feels alot more viable, but without the spread doesn't feel over powered. I think you should just keep it like this.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-25-2014, 04:51 AM
TheLinkMan2002 TheLinkMan2002 is offline
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 231
TheLinkMan2002 will become famous soon enough
Or if you do figure out the spread situation, make it auto and .25 firerate as to not just make it into an s6 that never reloads. Zilla seems to think that just cuz it is 1.2m that it should be above the rest, and i disagree. It should just be a slightly improved version of what already exists like Ares is.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-25-2014, 12:09 PM
Godzilla Godzilla is offline
Banned
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 450
Godzilla has a spectacular aura about
I base my opinion on the stats for weapons off of 3 things;

In real life performance; I mean, stats need to some-what correlate with the gun itself, no one wants to buy a deagle in game and the gun is .2 fire rate with 15 damage.

Shop Value; Why would you buy a gun for $1,200,000 when it is as good as a gun you could buy for $900,000?

Tier level; We have a tier system in place to evaluate an equation of guns to see what level they are on and which guns they are compete-able with.

Since the Tempest is an energy gun (non-existent in real life) my opinion is solely based off of the other two; Tier Level and Shop Price. The "Tempest" was released in a new tier which currently a few guns sit in (God-Tier) which are well into the million dollar price range. I'm loving the gun as is, adding a little spread won't hurt but I could care-less either way. I think it's perfectly in-line and in-balanced with it's tier and price now after the tweaks Ishmael made. I could see it getting a slight spread but I don't see it as a priority.

A weapon is only as good as it's owner. If you slap a tempest into someones hands for example; "MunK3H" the Co-Owner of Gun Point, he won't stand a chance against a good 50% of the server.

Weapons are only as OP as you allow them to be in the hands of an elite. I'm very eager to see someone like Corey or William using the weapon.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-25-2014, 06:06 PM
paintballdude956 paintballdude956 is offline
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 40
paintballdude956 will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Conqueror View Post
An up-to-date spreadsheet of all guns would be sweet if there's one available! I recently started playing again and I'd love to be able to compare all gun options.

I know you can type the name of each gun into the server individually to check stats, but I don't know the names of all the guns

I think there was a live document on google docs or something at one point in time. Can't seem to find it though.
Love this idea. It'll be a bit of work, but I'd be willing to go through the effort.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Godzilla View Post
Maybe some of the lower tier weapons released could be purchased with achievement coins, helping the newer players out a little bit.
I don't know the plans for achievement coins, but I would be open to having guns purchasable not using money.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Godzilla View Post
I base my opinion on the stats for weapons off of 3 things;

...
I 90% agree. The "real life" argument is easily lowest on my priority. You have no clue how many cries I got about the AA12 (look at how FAST it is IRL).
I just don't want to make an SMG into a handgun or something stupid.
But yeah, I think the tempest is balanced. Not super OP, but better than Navy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Godzilla View Post
A weapon is only as good as it's owner. If you slap a tempest into someones hands for example; "MunK3H" the Co-Owner of Gun Point, he won't stand a chance against a good 50% of the server.
dat call-out, tho.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-25-2014, 06:40 PM
Tim_Rocks Tim_Rocks is offline
a true gentlemen
Tim_Rocks's Avatar
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 1,863
Tim_Rocks is a splendid one to beholdTim_Rocks is a splendid one to beholdTim_Rocks is a splendid one to beholdTim_Rocks is a splendid one to beholdTim_Rocks is a splendid one to behold
Could probably use the item database to pull a list of all the guns and their statics. Paste the results into an Excel spreadsheet and let players check it out via web link.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-25-2014, 10:17 PM
TheLinkMan2002 TheLinkMan2002 is offline
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 231
TheLinkMan2002 will become famous soon enough
Those old stats doe..... Lol Ump never got any attention back then even though ares is essentially the same thing and is now the "best gun".
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-26-2014, 12:17 AM
Fiberwyre_P2P Fiberwyre_P2P is offline
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 471
Fiberwyre_P2P will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLinkMan2002 View Post
Those old stats doe..... Lol Ump never got any attention back then even though ares is essentially the same thing and is now the "best gun".
I used the UMP as my main gun lol
__________________
Merp
Merp
Merp
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-26-2014, 02:39 PM
TheLinkMan2002 TheLinkMan2002 is offline
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 231
TheLinkMan2002 will become famous soon enough
yeah because you were one of the few people that saw its potential. i had one as well.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 09:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright (C) 1998-2019 Toonslab All Rights Reserved.