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Supaman771 07-18-2014 01:26 AM

New Gun Releases
 
Four new firearms have been seen on the streets of Era.

Two of these weapons can be found in the Events House, for a nominal fee of 600EC a piece. These weapons will remain stocked indefinitely, contrary to previous Event Weapons. These weapons are:
  • Steyr AUG
  • SMGPK

The other two can be found at Southside Ammunitions. They cost $1,200,000 a piece but are extremely unique firearms. These two guns are:
  • Tempest
  • Sable E41

http://i.imgur.com/OJUX7M6.png
Brought to you by: Ishmael Soul (Guns Admin) & Rogue (Cat)

paintballdude956 07-18-2014 02:13 AM

Hey all, check out this pastebin for the stats of the guns. PMing the NPC server is broken for some reason....
http://pastebin.com/JwZ8m04g

GanNing 07-18-2014 02:14 AM

Mmm...

Godzilla 07-18-2014 03:49 AM

Liking the new editions, I think we should think into making MVP Weapons trade-able again if we're going to push out new content of guns relevant to their tier.

Kohola_KinG 07-18-2014 10:46 AM

More guns with RIDICULOUS stats. Probably tradeable to considering they are in EC shop. These weapons and prices have been thought out very poorly if i have to say so myself.

MVP SHOULD BE TRADEABLE.

Chorchizcool 07-18-2014 01:26 PM

Cant wait to see guns added to the 100-500k range.
We have 40+ unused guns, Seth said no one is allowed to change their gang guns until his new gang poop is released.

We can keep catering to rich players and trying to TAKE OUT HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY or we can think of how hard it is for noobies to acquire that much money and give them things to work towards.


but no
lets just focus on the rich people who dont bring any of there 18+ friends to come play graal

not the 16 and below who do.

**** them noobies

Fiberwyre_P2P 07-18-2014 02:50 PM

Despite what people are saying about only catering to rich people (which I agree with), I'm happy to see the Sable and Tempest being readded :D

I did like the original concept of the Sable stats a lot better though, before someone turned it into a glorified BAR. Low freeze, 23 damage, no spread, and slow rate of fire. My favorite gun ever.
I like the idea of an energy system on the Tempest, also.

Chorchizcool 07-18-2014 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P (Post 1728877)
Despite what people are saying about only catering to rich people (which I agree with), I'm happy to see the Sable and Tempest being readded :D

I did like the original concept of the Sable stats a lot better though, before someone turned it into a glorified BAR. Low freeze, 23 damage, no spread, and slow rate of fire. My favorite gun ever.
I like the idea of an energy system on the Tempest, also.

yeah im definitely excited to see an energy system for lazerrrr guns

ish is doing a good job as guns admins. all the changes ive seen are pretty well balanced.

really liked the shotgun updates.

Godzilla 07-18-2014 03:21 PM

I personally wouldn't pay 1.2mil for a 2 extra damage bar with no spread, the spread is what helps you win spars with the higher freeze weapons.

Will be fun to see them floating around eventually though, might take a while though.

shrimps 07-18-2014 03:27 PM

Crizen has an energy base ammo.

Chorchizcool 07-18-2014 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shrimps (Post 1728880)
Crizen has an energy base ammo.

until this it was the only one

cant we be excited about it?

APPARENTLY NOTTTT

Supaman771 07-18-2014 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chorchizcool (Post 1728875)
Cant wait to see guns added to the 100-500k range.
We have 40+ unused guns, Seth said no one is allowed to change their gang guns until his new gang poop is released.

**** them noobies

The original 'task' was to make some new EC weapons that would remain stocked to replace the ones existing which were pretty unbalanced and random. We ended up spending a couple hours making some unique stuff (Like the Tempest) and adding half of them to the cash shop to make the release work on both sides.

There's still a lot left to do, and I'm sure Ishmael will hit every spot eventually, this was just an afternoon of us being online together.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 1728879)
I personally wouldn't pay 1.2mil for a 2 extra damage bar with no spread, the spread is what helps you win spars with the higher freeze weapons.

They're meant to be really unique or niche. If you can control the pace of a spar.. Sable could act as a primary KSG, dishing out loads of damage, but if you can't handle yourself and get rushed by a navy... GG.

Trust me, you'd be itching for one of these when you are in a spar and the opponent ends up having 26 health remaining. Plus that 2 damage adds up significantly in the long run, just ask the Ares.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shrimps (Post 1728880)
Crizen has an energy base ammo.

Crizen is pretty archaic... just looking at the code with 3 different peoples styling in there made me sad. It took a revolutionary weapon system and did just the most basic thing you could with it.. slow and boring.

Tempest took that to a whole new level, it took a ton of tweaking once I cleaned the gun up, but I think Ish found a really solid break point. It's definitely the coolest gun on Era in my opinion. Can't wait to see someone master the energy moderation and just take the endless spar approach with dodging and hitting people when they reload. :asleep:

Kohola_KinG 07-18-2014 08:10 PM

The bizarre thing is. 600 EC... Now we have like 40 people saving for EC's.. Soon enough we going to have every tom, **** & harry with op guns.. (It's close to that as it is)

It's becoming ridiculous.

paintballdude956 07-18-2014 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chorchizcool (Post 1728875)
Cant wait to see guns added to the 100-500k range.
COMMUNISM!!!!!!! jk

While I don't disagree with you fundamentally, I don't think there's an easy solution to the problem.
There are quite a few guns in the 70-200k range. Some of them are better than others. Are any of them .05 freeze, 20 damage? No. But there are plenty with moderate freeze (.1-.15) and non-crippling fire rates.
I'm not going to release Mp5 Navies at that price-point (and I know you're not suggesting that). If/when I release mid/low tier guns, they'll have comparable stats to what's currently out there. So it'll be adding variety, but it won't help new players compete.

If you can think of a reasonable solution that allows players to compete without having a 800k gun, let me know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P (Post 1728877)

I did like the original concept of the Sable stats a lot better though, before someone turned it into a glorified BAR. Low freeze, 23 damage, no spread, and slow rate of fire. My favorite gun ever.

I liked that version of the Sable too. The issue is that it didn't really fit into the current gun-scene. The Ares has taken that spot from it.

Chorchizcool 07-18-2014 09:20 PM

I did come up with something but it kinda got pushed away, even though a lot of people like the idea. I geuss because staff 2 lazy to WORK ON IT

A tiered loyalty weapon system, similar to ours but just improved upon
at 50 points you get a random handgun
at 100 a random smg
at 200 a random rifle
at 350, the current 4 random loyalty weapons or something new.

All of these guns dont have to be GOD MODE OP SWAGGERJACK, but the fact that any new player can get 50 gang points in a week, will give them an incentive to raid more.


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