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Old 07-13-2014, 01:59 AM
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I always made the MVP/EC weapons untradable cause I disliked the occurrences when people (namely Seth/Sebastien) abused events (namely races at 3am) to get insane amounts of EC.. and sold Bows/LS/Flaks for mini fortunes in a matter of weeks.

A smaller issue happened when Samurai swords came out, but they're less popular than the EC items were and MVP are harder to get so that was fine.

When MVP guns came out I made sure to make them untradable. The goal is to earn something unique... when people see someone with a Vector I wanted them to know "That guy was a 20 time MVP he must be pretty good." etc. Also collecting the set was a sweet bonus.

I did the same when we released the EC items. Somebody, somewhere changed this at some point. And it's honestly too late now (These guns shouldn't even be available anymore, the shop was supposed to rotate stocks bi-yearly and only stock 3 of each one.. which would in theory make trading them less of an issue).

Mp5 SD was another anomaly.. someone just threw it in the shop and it kept getting stocked. I like how Zao approached the issue after I brought it up to him, giving a deadline to trade then making them untradable again. He stocked one for me to buy too, as long as I didn't trade it before the deadline. This is hardly abuse, as you said we earned the coins and wanted our prizes... but waiting a few weeks or not to get them was nbd really.

Just make them all untradable.
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Old 07-13-2014, 02:07 AM
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I always made the MVP/EC weapons untradable cause I disliked the occurrences when people (namely Seth/Sebastien) abused events (namely races at 3am) to get insane amounts of EC.. and sold Bows/LS/Flaks for mini fortunes in a matter of weeks.
So instead of fixing the main problem being, the event bot... You just made them untradeable letting them have as many coins as they wanted for anytime a new weapon came out ?

Why didn't you just remove the event bot and the problem would have been solved? That's the only thing thye could have abused. If they played normal events from ET's hosting then that is not abuse at all, that's called playing and winning and earning...

I don't see the problem now with people abusing, it's our weapons and we want to trade them. It's a playercount with average of 50 players, the hell does it matter? You still haven't given me a good reason why they should remain untradeable? I can give you a list of why it should be tradeable

So, make them tradeable.
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Old 07-13-2014, 02:15 AM
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So instead of fixing the main problem being, the event bot... You just made them untradeable letting them have as many coins as they wanted for anytime a new weapon came out ?
I personally wasn't staff however I was on here posting threads about the issue for quite awhile that's why I remember it.
I'm not sure of the exact management, but this occurred prior to the Samurai Sword being added to the MVP shop so it was pretty long ago.

It got fixed eventually, yeah.

But they should be untradable because people would just keep converting coins into money via. these items... and players who didn't earn them would just buy them. Not only is that extremely lame and boring, but the players who already have them would just gain a ton of personal value with the flip of a switch.
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Old 07-13-2014, 03:19 AM
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I personally wasn't staff however I was on here posting threads about the issue for quite awhile that's why I remember it.
I'm not sure of the exact management, but this occurred prior to the Samurai Sword being added to the MVP shop so it was pretty long ago.

It got fixed eventually, yeah.

But they should be untradable because people would just keep converting coins into money via. these items... and players who didn't earn them would just buy them. Not only is that extremely lame and boring, but the players who already have them would just gain a ton of personal value with the flip of a switch.

They would be selling their weapons for money already in the economy. Nothing is being pumped into the economy from this? It's just money moving from one player to another. Giving them more items to trade and new guns to play with, no problem in that?

Eventually the more MVP items there is out there that has been bought and is tradeable it will lose some of it's value. This is when you introduce new MVP weapons. A lot of people see this as a way of getting money for themselves. They make money through pking and earning prizes rather than having to work in mines etc.

You guys are just killing fun rather than making fun. Your reasons don't seem to convince me enough they should remain untradeable. They cant pawn them so not like a lot of money is being pumped into the economy anyway and even if it was, who cares? Not like staff care about that anyways when it's currently still happening with gang points and money per kill.

Players would prefer it to be tradeable. It makes more fun and sense than making them untradeable.. for somebody like me i could end up with all those weapons and then a bunch of useless mvp coins? makes no sense.

MAKE THEM TRADEABLE.
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I personally wasn't staff however I was on here posting threads about the issue for quite awhile that's why I remember it.
I'm not sure of the exact management, but this occurred prior to the Samurai Sword being added to the MVP shop so it was pretty long ago.

It got fixed eventually, yeah.

But they should be untradable because people would just keep converting coins into money via. these items... and players who didn't earn them would just buy them. Not only is that extremely lame and boring, but the players who already have them would just gain a ton of personal value with the flip of a switch.
but we allow betflipping?
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