iUN

[Fidel Castro]

Originally Posted by devilsknite1

Just go away you failed underground bridge troll how many slices of bologna did you eat today and how many lag spikes did your 20000 GB log files cause nerd????????????

Unfortunately if you do not know Tim he can come off as kind of an ******* but he's just being honest in a sarcastic way. Other than a few ideas you really haven't been able to convince anyone that iUN is really going to be any different from iClassic, and the fact that you reference iClassic doesn't help to sway that notion.

Like Stowen said, iUN is merely an idea at this point, and you were clearly posting in order to gain some sort of cheerleading squad hurraying your ideas. Don't be mad people are disagreeing with you- instead take what they say constructively, do some homework, and come back with some real ideas that will excite us and everyone else. Your enthusiasm is definitely a plus, just need some more preparation.

[devilsknite1]

Originally Posted by Fidel Castro

Unfortunately if you do not know Tim he can come off as kind of an ******* but he's just being honest in a sarcastic way. Other than a few ideas you really haven't been able to convince anyone that iUN is really going to be any different from iClassic, and the fact that you reference iClassic doesn't help to sway that notion.

Like Stowen said, iUN is merely an idea at this point, and you were clearly posting in order to gain some sort of cheerleading squad hurraying your ideas. Don't be mad people are disagreeing with you- instead take what they say constructively, do some homework, and come back with some real ideas that will excite us and everyone else. Your enthusiasm is definitely a plus, just need some more preparation.

Because honesty via sarcasm is now represented by calling a server a shooting range? Not entirely sure that's accurate. I do believe that the extensive amount of question marks should have addressed the tone of that poorly constructed sentence; it also somehow seems pretty similar to the original post it was made for.

Same response to you as I gave MD: READ! There are multiple times (pages, really) where I have explicitly stated that the core outline for the server is not yet solidified nor released to the public. What I have said is that we have an idea that we're following, and that idea has been stated a few times. I don't believe I've referenced iClassic for any structural ideas pertaining to iUN. Not to mention I'm not even heading this project!

The entire point of this thread is only to announce that it is underway, not to provide a detailed outline of what iUN is going to be. Unfortunately, all I've been able to cover is what it isn't. Though that isn't entirely my fault as the majority of things brought up have been somewhere along the lines of 'how it will differ from iClassic', which is what I'm guessing you're meaning when you state that I'm referencing iClassic. However, that reading thing will show why that server was even mentioned at all. I think the first response even had that server's name in it. In the first post though, the mentioning of iClassic was basically the "inb4" effect. It was entirely sarcastic, but has already been brought into question. So I hope that isn't what was being addressed.

Please, no more of these comments unless you've actually read the entire thread. Repetition is getting quite old.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by devilsknite1

Because honesty via sarcasm is now represented by calling a server a shooting range? Not entirely sure that's accurate.

The shooting range is scripted in GS1 and occasional works. Something tells me that a lot of scripts on UN are in GS1 which is going to be unacceptable for Stefan before you'll ever make it to iOS.

[devilsknite1]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

The shooting range is scripted in GS1 and occasional works. Something tells me that a lot of scripts on UN are in GS1 which is going to be unacceptable for Stefan before you'll ever make it to iOS.

-> maybe some level scripts contain GS1, otherwise most things have been converted. Most things that are broken are due to managers NaS/Link removing NPCs without actually checking their dependencies, so the barely works portion is probably pretty accurate.
-> Stefan already approved of the project though
It might be important to note that no scripts on PC UN currently will even be on iUN, so none of that janky old stuff should be reminiscing on the iDevices.

As for Fidel:
You're mistaking an idea for an outline. The idea is innovation and bringing something to the table that no one else has yet under the classic setting, and all the other good stuff that was said. This is what we will be basing outlines upon. The idea isn't the outline, otherwise that would be a pretty poor outline. I suppose it's relatable to a company's mission statement or something. I've always avoided specifically defining what iUN will be. If I slipped up at some points forgive me, but generally it was only defining what it would not be.

As far as timing goes and announcing things when there are actually solidified outlines (development has already begun, so there are actually some active material in place detailed enough to initiate work; "none" isn't necessarily correct), that is entirely accurate only if the goal was to inform players of what it is to be exactly. Which is normally what the goal should be, you're absolutely correct, but that's not what this thread's goal was. Granted I've never actually stated the goal, this thread serves really no other purpose other than arousing interest for any plausible developers (which it has), ideas (which are contributed), and to spark an interest for UN's low player count in an attempt to keep them around (which it kind of has).
The speculation/criticisms that arrive from the open-ended nature were to be expected, as briefly mentioned when naming the "inb4" effect, and any responses given were solely attempts to guide players down the general visionary path that the developers have for iUN. Unfortunately, that didn't work and apparently iUN is just an iClassic clone that people can play when they get bored [lol].

Clearly someone else should have made the announcement, that's even what I said initially. Problem is at that time we didn't really have anyone to do so, thus me taking the poor initiative at announcing its approval and nothing more. The reason being stated above as the goal for the thread.

[Fidel Castro]

Originally Posted by devilsknite1

Because honesty via sarcasm is now represented by calling a server a shooting range? Not entirely sure that's accurate. I do believe that the extensive amount of question marks should have addressed the tone of that poorly constructed sentence; it also somehow seems pretty similar to the original post it was made for.

Same response to you as I gave MD: READ! There are multiple times (pages, really) where I have explicitly stated that the core outline for the server is not yet solidified nor released to the public. What I have said is that we have an idea that we're following, and that idea has been stated a few times. I don't believe I've referenced iClassic for any structural ideas pertaining to iUN. Not to mention I'm not even heading this project!

The entire point of this thread is only to announce that it is underway, not to provide a detailed outline of what iUN is going to be. Unfortunately, all I've been able to cover is what it isn't. Though that isn't entirely my fault as the majority of things brought up have been somewhere along the lines of 'how it will differ from iClassic', which is what I'm guessing you're meaning when you state that I'm referencing iClassic. However, that reading thing will show why that server was even mentioned at all. I think the first response even had that server's name in it. In the first post though, the mentioning of iClassic was basically the "inb4" effect. It was entirely sarcastic, but has already been brought into question. So I hope that isn't what was being addressed.

Please, no more of these comments unless you've actually read the entire thread. Repetition is getting quite old.

It would be better for you and I if I broke down your response via multiple quotes to point out some flaws in what you said, but honestly I don't feel like it.

You make it explicitly clear, using italics, that you have an idea you are following -- and from what I read it has been "mentioned" a few times. However, you say before that sentence that the core outline of the server has not been solidified. We also have an admin (Stowen) saying that nothing (no idea, no anything) has been solidified yet.

Being that contradictory in one post is going to leave anyone that reads it with some questions, including myself. What others and I are trying to do is ascertain what in the hell iUN actually is, other than a word in a post. You referenced iClassic, so naturally others began asking questions and wondering how iUN was different. You were/are not prepared to answer those questions because of a classified set of "ideas" that, based on your last post, I question if they even exist.

Why post that "development is underway" for iUN if you aren't going to tell anyone any of the core ideas or what it is based on? Leaving something so open ended like that is going to bring in a lot of criticism, speculation, and unwanted posts (I say unwanted based off of some of your replies). Might of been better to wait to post something like that.

Finally, you state you are not even heading up the project. It might be more helpful to have someone post about it that is heading up the project, that way someone a little more knowledgeable of what is going on could explain the proposed server a bit better.

Before you rapid fire on the quote button and get really angry, know that this is not an attack on you. I know you are just eager about the prospective project and wanted to post, perhaps without thinking about the backlash from the forum goers. I wish y'all the best of luck.