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Old 07-04-2013, 08:08 PM
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Reversing your movement keys for around 3-5 seconds
Let's just ignore the fact that there's a Confusion status effect that this would work way better for, and 'improve' an attack type that already had a decent effect to begin with.
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Old 07-04-2013, 08:29 PM
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Let's just ignore the fact that there's a Confusion status effect that this would work way better for, and 'improve' an attack type that already had a decent effect to begin with.
Why not promote diversity among attacktypes? What you're suggesting is just further pigeonholeing people into the already more powerful attacktypes. You're getting really annoying
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Old 07-04-2013, 08:51 PM
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Why not promote diversity among attacktypes? What you're suggesting is just further pigeonholeing people into the already more powerful attacktypes. You're getting really annoying
Where do you get the idea that I don't support diversifying them? If anything, I suggest expanding more on the ones that are almost never used. (Ghosthit, Confusion, Paralyze, Slow, Drain, Deplete, etc.)

Revising attack types that are already established is not terribly helpful. I understand that the poison nerf has been needed for a while now, but the fear revision wasn't that necessary.
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Old 07-04-2013, 09:09 PM
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Where do you get the idea that I don't support diversifying them? If anything, I suggest expanding more on the ones that are almost never used. (Ghosthit, Confusion, Paralyze, Slow, Drain, Deplete, etc.)

Revising attack types that are already established is not terribly helpful. I understand that the poison nerf has been needed for a while now, but the fear revision wasn't that necessary.
Confusion is not reversing ur movement keys though.
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Old 07-04-2013, 10:27 PM
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Where do you get the idea that I don't support diversifying them? If anything, I suggest expanding more on the ones that are almost never used. (Ghosthit, Confusion, Paralyze, Slow, Drain, Deplete, etc.)

Revising attack types that are already established is not terribly helpful. I understand that the poison nerf has been needed for a while now, but the fear revision wasn't that necessary.
You suggest doing exactly what he's doing? Whoaoaoaoa best idea!

Fear didn't work before, it was a bugfix/addition not a revision. What you suggested with revising Confusion is exactly the thing you said isn't helpful mere moments later in this post... please stop talking out of your ass.
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I think what he means is that the reversed keys could be utilized more under confusion attacktype, rather than confusion just telling you that you are confused when trying to cast a spell/prayer.

I get the reasoning behind reversed keys (running away / back instead of forward) but the paragraph above is what draenin waa trying to say.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:41 PM
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I think what he means is that the reversed keys could be utilized more under confusion attacktype, rather than confusion just telling you that you are confused when trying to cast a spell/prayer.

I get the reasoning behind reversed keys (running away / back instead of forward) but the paragraph above is what draenin waa trying to say.
Confusion attack-type does work now. It randomizes/reverses the way you wish to attack and makes bow range inaccurate.

I don't think Draenin has a single clue what works and has changed on Kingdoms.

Good job Nico! Hope you can follow through on your promise to release a new attacktype once a week.
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:48 AM
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I think what he means is that the reversed keys could be utilized more under confusion attacktype, rather than confusion just telling you that you are confused when trying to cast a spell/prayer.

I get the reasoning behind reversed keys (running away / back instead of forward) but the paragraph above is what draenin was trying to say.
Oh hey, someone who gets it.
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Old 07-05-2013, 03:30 PM
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Confused also makes you swing in other directions. o.O Fear doesnt make sense reversing keys but to say that it belongs on confusion when confusion already kinda sorta does a similar thing ...
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Old 07-05-2013, 04:52 PM
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Let's just ignore the fact that there's a Confusion status effect that this would work way better for, and 'improve' an attack type that already had a decent effect to begin with.
I can't really remember, what did fear do way back in like 2003?

I can see your argument Draenin, that sort of effect does sound like it could work well on the confusion attacktype as well.

However, I think I've played a few other games where reversing the keys was the approach they took to fear. Trying to give the illusion of "running away" from whatever direction you're heading.

Considering fear hasn't been active on weapons for at least 7 years now-- I'll take it . Thanks a ton Cubes for volunteering your time bud! We all appreciate your work here.
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