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Old 06-05-2013, 04:04 AM
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If Graal PC had access to mobile servers, all would be fine. We have facebook instead.
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:05 AM
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Eh, I didn't really mean the mobile servers, they've only just begun. The PC servers have been in need of attention for a long time now, so it would be fine if that was taken care of but I don't see anything game-changing coming any time soon. Then again, maybe it's just me.
What do you expect? For Unixmad and Stefan Graal is a business. Of course they focus a platform where they can make good money, and PC is missing attention because of that. They are making 0 profit from people like you with lifetime classic accounts, should be gratefull they didnt remove them at all. I think the first step is made and the gold servers were moved to the classic tab, which is a sign to the right direction. And Im sure more will change soon.

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If Graal PC had access to mobile servers, all would be fine. We have facebook instead.
But then the other Server dying out like Era, Zodiac etc, whats the point of that. Better: iOS user should be able to have their accounts (with subscription) being playable on PC too.
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:10 AM
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What do you expect? For Unixmad and Stefan Graal is a business. Of course they focus a platform where they can make good money, and PC is missing attention because of that. They are making 0 profit from people like you with lifetime classic accounts, should be gratefull they didnt remove them at all. I think the first step is made and the gold servers were moved to the classic tab, which is a sign to the right direction. And Im sure more will change soon.
Well I know that, it's obvious. But, think about it, why do you think they didn't remove classic accounts? What do you think would've happened? Everyone would've eventually left Graal and that would mean the mobile servers would have less players, meaning they'd have less money. The PC community is hardly returning any sort of profit to them so of course they're not going to focus on it, it's a waste of time.

Also, working on GK doesn't mean you have to be all Pro-Stefan and agree with everything he says, you can have your own opinions too!
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:14 AM
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Well I know that, it's obvious. But, think about it, why do you think they didn't remove classic accounts? What do you think would've happened? Everyone would've eventually left Graal and that would mean the mobile servers would have less players, meaning they'd have less money. The PC community is hardly returning any sort of profit to them so of course they're not going to focus on it, it's a waste of time.

Also, working on GK doesn't mean you have to be all Pro-Stefan and agree with everything he says, you can have your own opinions too!
Dont worry about my opinion, I do that everyday, thats why GK is on classic/playerworlds tab.

Technically Graal could shut down all the PC stuff and go mobile only. They make enough money from it. The PC stuff is just a bonus, atleast so I see it. MAYBE 500-1000 USD per month? Dont think so many servers/accounts get purchased at all.
Would be interesting if they would publicy some statistics like other companies do, about their volume of sales etc.
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:53 AM
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Dont worry about my opinion, I do that everyday, thats why GK is on classic/playerworlds tab.
Yeah, that was all you.
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:57 AM
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Yeah, that was all you.
Im pretty sure you didnt email Stefan about making GK classic, so yeah
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:58 AM
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Im pretty sure you didnt email Stefan about making GK classic, so yeah
You're right, I didn't, but I know you weren't the only one, so yeah.
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:59 AM
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You're right, I didn't, but I know you weren't the only one, so yeah.
You know nothing, thats the sad part of it. But okay, everybody has his own opinion.
The next few months will show more about all this Classic stuff etc.
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Old 06-05-2013, 06:00 AM
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You know nothing, thats the sad part of it. But okay, everybody has his own opinion.
The next few months will show more about all this Classic stuff etc.
looool. yup, you're right. You were the only one, almighty Nico who is all knowing.

So, how many pay2win items are you putting in that gelat shop?
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Old 06-05-2013, 06:01 AM
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looool. yup, you're right. You were the only one, almighty Nico who is all knowing.
You are funny, really. Keep up entertaining the community, I like that. Thank you
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Old 06-05-2013, 11:08 AM
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But then the other Server dying out like Era, Zodiac etc, whats the point of that. Better: iOS user should be able to have their accounts (with subscription) being playable on PC too.
A server like iClassic can easily be playable on PC. iEra is a mess so I'd ignore that, and servers like Zodiac and Valikorlia have different gameplay so they wouldn't be in danger.
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Old 06-05-2013, 11:25 AM
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A server like iClassic can easily be playable on PC. iEra is a mess so I'd ignore that, and servers like Zodiac and Valikorlia have different gameplay so they wouldn't be in danger.
Agreed.

But I feel like this is a topic meant for its own separate zone

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But then the other Server dying out like Era, Zodiac etc, whats the point of that. Better: iOS user should be able to have their accounts (with subscription) being playable on PC too.
Why not just make it so the subscription fee itself an option to give access to iOS servers for PC to PC servers for iOS? One flat rate, no side should be treated more specially.
I understand that there's certain elephants in the room about this idea, but haven't we honestly wanted a Graal where PC and iOS players can play together on the same server.
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Old 06-05-2013, 11:55 AM
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P2P model is dying out. It's either pay once and play forever (like we had, you know, to play our own content) or F2P with cosmetic and/or convenience purchases.
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