Forced Battle Mode?

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by scriptless

Simple solution to prevent noob lamming, only make members of the kingdoms BMODE... noobs will have no kingdom or have ability to "/kingdom leave".

This would probably discourage new players from joining a kingdom, not that we have some burgeoning group of new players desperately trying to join kingdoms as it is... I still don't want to discourage it.

It seems that those who are for the idea would also like to see some mechanism to prevent laming. Presuming laming could be prevented I think a system that favoured b-mode would be a step in the right direction.

[NicoX]

Originally Posted by Stephen

This would probably discourage new players from joining a kingdom, not that we have some burgeoning group of new players desperately trying to join kingdoms as it is... I still don't want to discourage it.

It seems that those who are for the idea would also like to see some mechanism to prevent laming. Presuming laming could be prevented I think a system that favoured b-mode would be a step in the right direction.

Force everybody BMode with a phys lvl 60+, that players are usually fast enough to run in safe places.

[scriptless]

Quick question, would players be able to go out of bmode? And if not would this effect exp gained when leveling? As of right now bmode gains extra exp then peaceful mode.

Originally Posted by Stephen

This would probably discourage new players from joining a kingdom, not that we have some burgeoning group of new players desperately trying to join kingdoms as it is... I still don't want to discourage it.

It seems that those who are for the idea would also like to see some mechanism to prevent laming. Presuming laming could be prevented I think a system that favoured b-mode would be a step in the right direction.

I see your point. I wasn't meaning to be discouraging to trials to join a kingdom, didnt think that thru.

But yes, preventing lamming would be essential to keeping players on. They scare easily. As this thread stated, a 2 week trial period is not perminent. What's the worse that could happen 2 weeks later it goes back to normal and written as a failed attempt.. AT WORST.. the only way to see what happens is to try it and learn from the failure or success of it.

Originally Posted by NicoX

Force everybody BMode with a phys lvl 60+, that players are usually fast enough to run in safe places.

I was running at 6.5 speed since I was about level 30 phy, level for phy has nothing to do with speed/dex of a player..

Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe

Why would you discourage new players from joining a kingdom?

I would like to see some sort of incentive to engage in pvp as well (other than the kill/death display in your profile)

I wasn't intentionally discouraging them. I didn't think that one thru. I was only saying it that way since currently you have to be in a kingdom to become bmode. I remember being stuck in bmode because I was kingdomless a long time ago and could not ring the bell.

[Felix_Xenophobe]

Originally Posted by scriptless

Simple solution to prevent noob lamming, only make members of the kingdoms BMODE... noobs will have no kingdom or have ability to "/kingdom leave".

Other alternative is not making Trials bmode, because of level restirctions.

I like the idea of BMODE... it actually fit's graal since any classic server or any server for that matter already does this.

Why would you discourage new players from joining a kingdom?

I would like to see some sort of incentive to engage in pvp as well (other than the kill/death display in your profile)

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe

I would like to see some sort of incentive to engage in pvp as well (other than the kill/death display in your profile)

Yea, I have a solution for this lined up. It will add incentive to killing, somewhat like on Era.

[biggiant]

Force everybody BMode with a phys lvl 60+, that players are usually fast enough to run in safe places.

I think you are forgetting mages.

[toyotasupra]

Force everyone into battle mode so people can lame the weak... and then reward them.... hmmm.........

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by toyotasupra

Force everyone into battle mode so people can lame the weak... and then reward them.... hmmm.........

Not sure where you get that idea from...

Originally Posted by Stephen

It seems that those who are for the idea would also like to see some mechanism to prevent laming. Presuming laming could be prevented I think a system that favoured b-mode would be a step in the right direction.

[scriptless]

Would bomboria trade still be anti-pk tho? lol

[Felix_Xenophobe]

Originally Posted by scriptless

Would bomboria trade still be anti-pk tho? lol

Yes

[bioboi]

ah damn missed the poll by a few hours damn work...but bmode for all would be fun... I'd actually like to see trade back to PK as well, idling does nothing for the server forced bmode and trade PK would get rid of the idling in there

[Felix_Xenophobe]

Originally Posted by bioboi

ah damn missed the poll by a few hours damn work...but bmode for all would be fun... I'd actually like to see trade back to PK as well, idling does nothing for the server forced bmode and trade PK would get rid of the idling in there

In the long run it would just end up being annoying. The biggest player hub needs to be a safe zone.

A spar arena (indoor) in bomboria would be neat though.

[bioboi]

Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe

In the long run it would just end up being annoying. The biggest player hub needs to be a safe zone.

A spar arena (indoor) in bomboria would be neat though.

Not really, keep MMT as a no PK-Zone...Trade was PK during GK's prime and it didn't really have all that many problems besides cauldron bombs and the old magic system. Given if everyone is made bmode I could see the problem, but trade being PK would only work if bmode was still optional.

[shrimps]

Cast spells indoors again too! yay. -.-

[scriptless]

If the trade is anti-pk then 95% of players will not be affected if they are forced bmode.. im already bmode.. -_- and I have no problems.

[Felix_Xenophobe]

Originally Posted by scriptless

If the trade is anti-pk then 95% of players will not be affected if they are forced bmode.. im already bmode.. -_- and I have no problems.

Forced bmode on its own isn't going to do much. However, in the future if you incentivize players to travel and actually play the game outside on the overworld you'll see its impact.

[Cubical]

Make trade pk and introduce a spar that people can idle in in the middle of bomboria

[Conqueror]

If B-mode becomes forced-- I'd suggest either a 3 second "invincibility" whenever someone leaves a building. Some might argue it ruins the fun of "traps", which is true!

But this may just be unfair advantage to the newer little ones who join the game. Never having the chance to level in peace without the fear of a pk-hungry player in constant pursuit.

Stephen mentioned the idea of "Saturday's only". Which is an interesting thought. Maybe leaving B-Mode as optional, but having "Double Exp Saturdays" or something which may raise the incentive for those to dip into B-mode.

[Nuke_for_you]

There has to be some changes to pvp, currently everyone's speed is over 5 and poisons are useless. The only people who would be getting kills are people who setup directors+walls. Also currently the only people not bmode enabled are the people who cant pvp anyway

[scriptless]

I wan't a b-mode/p-mode bell in bomboria.. so when I run out of gold I don't have to run back to my kingdom.. or when I am trial to stay b-mode.. lol

Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe

Trade being a PK-zone had nothing to do with GKs success (see the years after trade was made no-pk - that was also considered GK's prime)

Bomboria trade is a place to TRADE items and socialize. I'm all for promoting PVP, but shoving it down the throats of the entire playerbase is not the way to do it.

Dude, in GK's prime, the max level was like 40's-60's.. no one had ever hit 107.. Now people do alot more damage and have more power...

[Tashkin]

Originally Posted by scriptless

I wan't a b-mode/p-mode bell in bomboria.. so when I run out of gold I don't have to run back to my kingdom.. or when I am trial to stay b-mode.. lol

As far as I know trials are automatically thrown back into pmode. I would like to see a bmode bell in bomb as well though. Having to travel to the kingdom and back kind of sucks.

[scriptless]

Originally Posted by Tashkin

As far as I know trials are automatically thrown back into pmode. I would like to see a bmode bell in bomb as well though. Having to travel to the kingdom and back kind of sucks.

Yeah, us lazy fart's don't like walking that far.. lol even with 6+ speed it still sucks.. thats why I said I wish I could b b-mode in trial mode..

[NicoX]

Originally Posted by scriptless

Yeah, us lazy fart's don't like walking that far.. lol even with 6+ speed it still sucks.. thats why I said I wish I could b b-mode in trial mode..

Seriously through the dungeons you need less then 1 minute to travel to ur kingdom....a bell in bomb wont make it better. it would just start the era of pro laming the bell

[Tashkin]

Originally Posted by NicoX

Seriously through the dungeons you need less then 1 minute to travel to ur kingdom....a bell in bomb wont make it better. it would just start the era of pro laming the bell

To the kingdom yeah it only takes a few minutes.. coming back however takes a lot longer. You have to go through two different dungeons just to find you way back to the main one. While doing that you are hoping the whole time you don't get lost. It is simply a huge hassle trying to make your way back to main. The ferry... They are horrible you are usually looking at about 10 minutes just for the ferry to get back to your island. You may or may not get lucky and find an unstick boat. It's is simply a hassle and a waste of time.

[Vartas]

now all go back idle in bomboria.

[Draenin]

Should be entertaining, if nothing else. What do you have to lose?