why kill v5

[Scoper]

Originally Posted by Cow2001

do i know you??
I did say i was taking a break from the graal forum but that was over 6 months ago!

No, you don't.
And okay @ the break bit.
I've made completely valid points though, so please drop your argument

[Cow2001]

i'll respond to your points.
i'm a player, not a developer.
thats why things like new scripting and improvements for developers should be beyond me, they are just things in the background.

the only part that really concerns me and other regular players about the client is how it looks and feels. on this aspect i don't think v5 and v6 improved things at all, and this is why i prefer the other versions (and i know i'm not alone on this!).

[Tim_Rocks]

You sound like a man/women? who needs a time machine.

[kia345]

Cow sounds like someone with a point.

Every update, old things break and the UI gets worse.


It doesn't help that the client actually used to look like a game's menu before, now it looks like a kitsch flash game hub that I just might see advertised on Nick Jr.'s website.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Cow2001

i'll respond to your points.
i'm a player, not a developer.
thats why things like new scripting and improvements for developers should be beyond me, they are just things in the background.

the only part that really concerns me and other regular players about the client is how it looks and feels. on this aspect i don't think v5 and v6 improved things at all, and this is why i prefer the other versions (and i know i'm not alone on this!).

w0rd.

[Scoper]

Originally Posted by Cow2001

i'll respond to your points.
i'm a player, not a developer.
thats why things like new scripting and improvements for developers should be beyond me, they are just things in the background.

the only part that really concerns me and other regular players about the client is how it looks and feels. on this aspect i don't think v5 and v6 improved things at all, and this is why i prefer the other versions (and i know i'm not alone on this!).

Visually and aesthetically, perhaps you're right. But you probably also wouldn't like thousands of trial hackers running around messing up your gameplay.
Furthermore, new updates (generally?) meant newer/more scripting options, which means the developers can do more stuff. For you.

What's more important, a good game, or a good shell around it?
Also, don't speak for all 'regular' players. I prefer v5 and v6 over previous versions, and am sure some others do as well.

Finally..while I agree that for a non-staff player, development is a background thing, don't think for a second it doesn't directly affect you. To think so would be incredibly dumb

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Scoper

Visually and aesthetically, perhaps you're right. But you probably also wouldn't like thousands of trial hackers running around messing up your gameplay.
Furthermore, new updates (generally?) meant newer/more scripting options, which means the developers can do more stuff. For you.

What's more important, a good game, or a good shell around it?
Also, don't speak for all 'regular' players. I prefer v5 and v6 over previous versions, and am sure some others do as well.

Finally..while I agree that for a non-staff player, development is a background thing, don't think for a second it doesn't directly affect you. To think so would be incredibly dumb

w0rd.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Scoper

thousands of trial hackers

I would love thousands of trial hackers. I think thousands of any kind of player would be great. Graal can hardly muster scores of players.

And that's why the improved security is a laughable point. There's nothing to secure.

And the development end of it? I'm pretty sure the servers I played on previous clients were just as (if not more) enjoyable than what passes now.

[Scoper]

Originally Posted by kia345

I would love thousands of trial hackers. I think thousands of any kind of player would be great. Graal can hardly muster scores of players.

And that's why the improved security is a laughable point. There's nothing to secure.

And the development end of it? I'm pretty sure the servers I played on previous clients were just as (if not more) enjoyable than what passes now.

Ha, yeah, thousands might be a large overstatement. But,any hackers is still bad.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by kia345

I would love thousands of trial hackers. I think thousands of any kind of player would be great. Graal can hardly muster scores of players.

Uh, by thousands, he means a couple of players who just get banned over and over again. Sure the total could be a thousand, but it's really just a few players who get banned and keep coming back on another trial. And around the circle goes!

Originally Posted by kia345

And the development end of it? I'm pretty sure the servers I played on previous clients were just as (if not more) enjoyable than what passes now.

Uh, would you still rather be using GS1??

[kia345]

My favorite part about Tim's posts is that they only seem like applicable responses when they're in the form of tired memes

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by kia345

My favorite part about Tim's posts is that they only seem like applicable responses when they're in the form of tired memes

[kia345]

That's subjectively better.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by kia345

That's subjectively better.

<3

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Scoper

But you probably also wouldn't like thousands of trial hackers running around messing up your gameplay.

The only hacks that ruin our gameplay on Zod apparently still work on v6.

Originally Posted by Scoper

Furthermore, new updates (generally?) meant newer/more scripting options, which means the developers can do more stuff. For you.

Right, because v5 was totally pushed to its limit.

Originally Posted by Scoper

What's more important, a good game, or a good shell around it?

A good game, obviously.