What sort of Graalian are you? v2

[papajchris]

you still messed up. Manager isn't a dev position

[Cow2001]

Originally Posted by papajchris

you still messed up. Manager isn't a dev position

even if we ignore that almost every manager develops to an extent, managers are still the guys who decide on the direction of the server and dictate what will be developed.
so even if a manager doesn't technically develops (and I think most do) you can still say it's a development related position.

[papajchris]

Originally Posted by Cow2001

even if we ignore that almost every manager develops to an extent, managers are still the guys who decide on the direction of the server and dictate what will be developed.
so even if a manager doesn't technically develops (and I think most do) you can still say it's a development related position.

Where do server admins or co-managers fit in?

[Cow2001]

Originally Posted by papajchris

Where do server admins or co-managers fit in?

co-managers fit in development development.
LAT admins go to development, GP chiefs to non-development.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Cow2001

even if we ignore that almost every manager develops to an extent, managers are still the guys who decide on the direction of the server and dictate what will be developed.
so even if a manager doesn't technically develops (and I think most do) you can still say it's a development related position.

I'd like to direct you to this

You're slightly right, but mostly wrong.

[Cow2001]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

I'd like to direct you to this

You're slightly right, but mostly wrong.

the video doesn't contradict my point. the producer oversees development, so he still can be categorized as someone involved in development.
(+we're talking about graal managers, are they the same as video game producers?)

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Cow2001

the video doesn't contradict my point. the producer oversees development, so he still can be categorized as someone involved in development.
(+we're talking about graal managers, are they the same as video game producers?)

Managers are not a developer role though, is my point, they are a management role, they are there to organize everything within the team of developers to make things go efficiently and effectively, at the most I'll say they relate to them, not directly involved.
This is the same problem as the last thread's poll, your poll is completely ambiguous as to what you're talking/asking about.
You even wrote the option like this:

Development staff (LAT or manager)

To answer your question in parenthesis, yes they are, the fact you're actually asking this question makes me question if you know what you're even trying to convey as a question, as well as making me question as to how much of the video you actually watched or was capable of understanding.

[Cow2001]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Managers are not a developer role though, is my point, they are a management role, they are there to organize everything within the team of developers to make things go efficiently and effectively, at the most I'll say they relate to them, not directly involved.
This is the same problem as the last thread's poll, your poll is completely ambiguous as to what you're talking/asking about.
You even wrote the option like this:

i get your point, but i don't agree with it.
I consider development as any part of the process that brings the server\server content to the players. so the one that plans the server, organizes the teams, makes them work well, is a major person in the development process and I consider them as a part of the development staff.
and anyway i think most managers on graal today also actively develop.

Originally Posted by TheGodAngelo

a lat would make a terrible manager. does anyone still use the term lat?
it seems so out of date and out of place.

but thor is a LAT
and i see nothing wrong with the term.

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

I just post on the forums, new option please

don't u play classic?
anyway there's a new poll option for you! (thx to the mod who added)

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Cow2001

i get your point, but i don't agree with it.
I consider development as any part of the process that brings the server\server content to the players. so the one that plans the server, organizes the teams, makes them work well, is a major person in the development process and I consider them as a part of the development staff.
and anyway i think most managers on graal today also actively develop.

Okay, done reasoning, you disagree for reasons that are faulty, therefore you're not even trying to learn the difference, good day.
P.S: Nice one.