Repeating chat?

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Hezzy002

Perl is still widely used, mate. Doesn't mean the reasonable people like it.

EDIT: Not really saying that I have any huge issues with Java. The biggest qualms I have are in regards to the GC (Something I only want to see in an embedded scripting language), lack of operator overloading (Something useful that helps continuity), and the fact that everything requires a wrapper class (Hardcore OO is counter productive to a purely functional program).

Most of my opinions are also heavily based on game development. The language and VM just isn't suited to it IMO. There isn't a lot of middleware for Java, low-level functionality is out the window, and even though the VM executes relatively quick because it's JIT'd, GC is a huge bottleneck. Imagine if CoD had stuttering ingame as the Java VM frantically searched through memory to try to find some available to allocate and others to free (Not multithreaded, pretty sure it's impossible to do completely asynchronously).

Also can't handle an object's memory directly (Super useful for parsing binary file formats; just pointer to file data -> struct in the same format and the header's parsed), can't even shallow copy objects automagically (memcpy would work in C).

Sure, these issues wouldn't crop up for a lot of programming projects, but they cropped up hundreds of times for me when I was trying to make a game engine in Java, and pretty much every game developer I know hates Java and JVM with a passion.

I'm not arguing that Java is a good language, just that it is a language . I would consider Perl a language as well, even though I read very little good about it.