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Old 12-07-2011, 11:22 PM
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I would find it really nifty if we could place a lock on certain graal files, meaning people no matter what can't upload over them. Such files such as the:
ganis :sit,walk,idle,swim and bla bla bla
sounds:hit,step,etc
images:basic heads and shields

Or.... a better idea would be so everything needs a prefix to be accepted for downloading.

I'm suggesting this because I tired of having to repeatedly replace files, and I'm sure others are as well.

Got a reason why this shouldn't be implemented? I'd like to hear it
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Old 12-07-2011, 11:26 PM
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This has been requested many times :/
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Old 12-07-2011, 11:41 PM
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Would be nicer if each server got its own folder for storing downloaded stuff, then we wouldn't have any of these issues and we wouldn't have the issue of people (especially level makers) using graphics they had in their Graal folder but that weren't actually on the server.
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Old 12-07-2011, 11:49 PM
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I feel like you could protect them yourself by setting them as read-only or by using other file system security settings.
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Old 12-08-2011, 12:02 AM
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Would be nicer if each server got its own folder for storing downloaded stuff, then we wouldn't have any of these issues and we wouldn't have the issue of people (especially level makers) using graphics they had in their Graal folder but that weren't actually on the server.
Stefan said he doesn't want to do this because it'd cause unnecessary duplicates

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I feel like you could protect them yourself by setting them as read-only or by using other file system security settings.
The main problem is default files, not server files. People can screw up head0.png just by uploading their own as the same name(Atrius >: (), and the only way to fix it would be to go into your folder and manually delete it so it forces an update on a server that doesn't mess it up.
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Old 12-08-2011, 12:26 AM
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Stefan said he doesn't want to do this because it'd cause unnecessary duplicates
Graal itself is an unnecessary duplicate.
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Stefan said he doesn't want to do this because it'd cause unnecessary duplicates
It hardly would. Few servers share graphics. Maybe player graphics (heads and stuff) would be exempted from this.
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Old 12-08-2011, 12:50 AM
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This has been requested many times :/
Oh... Sorry. I ran a quick seach, guess I didn't use the right words
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:04 AM
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Oh... Sorry. I ran a quick seach, guess I didn't use the right words
Was more along the lines of "this has been requested many times but Stefan never does anything about it."

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It hardly would. Few servers share graphics. Maybe player graphics (heads and stuff) would be exempted from this.
I think his response was mainly aimed at Classic servers which use a lot of the default graphics(like door.png). I agree I don't think it'd be as problematic as he makes it out to be. To be honest, insane folder structures are way more problematic, which is what the currently prefix system creates.
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:00 PM
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Some server has overwrote body2.png, the different version causes the cape to not appear while sitting. This has been confirmed by multiple different players.
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:04 PM
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Some server has overwrote body2.png, the different version causes the cape to not appear while sitting. This has been confirmed by multiple different players.
Doesn't Era have a detection system that checks if an image doesn't match the image on their server? I could have sworn I've seen it throw up a few messages on RC when I worked there. If somebody could come up with something like that and release it to the forums then playerworld staff will be able to notify everybody much faster. Just an idea.
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:06 PM
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:24 PM
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Doesn't Era have a detection system that checks if an image doesn't match the image on their server? I could have sworn I've seen it throw up a few messages on RC when I worked there. If somebody could come up with something like that and release it to the forums then playerworld staff will be able to notify everybody much faster. Just an idea.
We protect a few images (doors, bullets, etc.) from being tampered with, yes.
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:26 PM
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We protect a few images (doors, bullets, etc.) from being tampered with, yes.
If you stored all of the default images on your server and added the protection to all of the images, would there be a way to overwrite the tampered images? If not, an alert would work too. At least the staff are getting notified if players have an edited image, or an image that doesn't match the uploaded one.

How do you do it? Do you calculate how many bytes the image has and compare it with the uploaded one? That shouldn't be too tasking to write.

Edit: There is a filesize() function, so I guess it could be done. If you stored all of the default images in a file on your server, and then used loadfolder() to grab a list of the image files and check their file size against the player's image...

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Old 05-26-2012, 12:40 AM
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[QUOTE=Emera;1695626]If you stored all of the default images on your server and added the protection to all of the images, would there be a way to overwrite the tampered images?/QUOTE]

Yes, it is possible to force images to be re-downloaded (fileupdate function).
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Old 05-26-2012, 12:41 AM
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Yes, it is possible to force images to be re-downloaded (fileupdate function).
I'm going to toy around and see what I end up with then. Thanks for the info.
Edit: Just threw some code together, and it's not hard at all to pull of if you're using fileSize() and fileUpdate()

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Old 05-26-2012, 01:16 AM
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Why isn't this fixed within the client/server yet?
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:45 PM
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Some server has overwrote body2.png, the different version causes the cape to not appear while sitting. This has been confirmed by multiple different players.

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i know what the server is that messed up my files: shaded legends they have everything with diff numbers all my heads where mixed up aswell
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Can someone possibly upload a folder of the correct heads, bodies, etc. so that I can upload them all to Stroseria and force players to download them if they have the wrong ones? I want to avoid this mess as much as possible :/

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Old 06-06-2012, 10:23 AM
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If it helps here is our body2.png.


I did however accidentally upload a body that erased body2 in the past,
but it was deleted a while ago if this is an image anyone has.
(Or at least I found this in a folder on my Mac, which has definitely been edited by me.)

I uploaded it February 18th, 2012, not sure when I removed it though..
I thought a few days after, but I could be wrong. I did however check today and it is no longer there...

bodyb.png - to provide for more variety for ganis.
If that body2.png others have was mine, then I must apologize..


As for the heads, I'll admit that anything past about about 500+ I have edited, and any gaps that were left, for instance head33 not seemingly showing up anywhere. As well as other invisible heads I can never find on any server. I did realize my mistake and they will be renamed to slhead1-1500. The classic named heads have all been deleted, so if it was Shaded Legends, it should not happen again. For head 33 I stuck in a tomato head, and for something in the 100's that I couldn't find in SL files or a folder of heads I found on the forums I stuck in another random edited head.

Anyway, both problems should have been solved on this server. I was told that all classic heads were built in so it wouldn't have affected anything.. If that was wrong, hopefully deleting them all should fix any future inconveniences.
I stumbled upon this room wondering why things needed to be protected, and I admit I've had problems upon entering other servers like tiledefs and heads... I can understand why, as well as what I've done.

So whether or not that was a personal attack on Shaded Legends due to us renaming heads like
01010-fingernayle-booteefool-blackbow-cutey-head-for-her.png,
5starpimp-oneandonly-head.png,
or
-g-wo-superduperpersonalsexyheadforthatgirlnamedhana.png ,
the fact is, it could be true.

I hope I personally have not effected anyone or too many. :c
Just thought I'd step up and take the blame since it very well could have been me...
Everything I do will be renamed slhead#### however, and should not effect anything.
(for future reference)


-EDIT-
After speaking with Thor and using /find img
I found out it was saved into levels/gifs.. So it was still there. x.X;
NOW the problem is fixed...
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