Leaking Information

[ffcmike]

I noticed that a new ban reason was added for "Leaking Information". From what I understand these ban times and reasons are a general guideline rather than something to be strictly adhered to, yet I still think it's quite funny how something like leaking information is classified as a 45 day ban considering the related times for some of the previous listed offences.

So if a staff member of a server were to leak information on some upcoming updates for example, is this an equal crime to maliciously removing existing work or destroying players stats via script?

I can remember a time on Classic where a particular member of staff through script gave themself unauthorised access to certain new areas under development, and with negative intention uploaded a video showing everything to YouTube. It can even be argued that this action played a large role in the Development Admin of the time quitting soon afterwards, yet funnily enough I don't think there was any consideration for this person to be banned, he wasn't even removed as a member of staff.

Granted getting away with something like that completely is extremely lenient, but I'd be concerned if people were being banned for 45 days for this type of thing. I'm sure there must have been countless times where developers/other staff have shown/explained things to their friend, where the knowledge has then been passed on further.

[Crono]

those ban guidelines are pretty awful, i never follow them.

[Galdor]

The law doesn't... make mistakes.

[Draenin]

Originally Posted by Galdor

The law doesn't... make mistakes.

I am the law.

[Geno]

bro did you see the new items and content for the new upcomming iphone server? private msg me for details/pics/downloads.

[maximus_asinus]

could leaking information maybe mean private or sensitive information about a person and not the server?

[EclipsedAngel]

I'd imagine so Maximus.

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by ffcmike

I can remember a time on Classic where a particular member of staff through script gave themself unauthorised access to certain new areas under development, and with negative intention uploaded a video showing everything to YouTube. It can even be argued that this action played a large role in the Development Admin of the time quitting soon afterwards, yet funnily enough I don't think there was any consideration for this person to be banned, he wasn't even removed as a member of staff.

We ALL know who you are referring to. No need to make it anonymous!

[Crono]

Originally Posted by ffcmike

I can remember a time on Classic where a particular member of staff through script gave themself unauthorised access to certain new areas under development, and with negative intention uploaded a video showing everything to YouTube. It can even be argued that this action played a large role in the Development Admin of the time quitting soon afterwards, yet funnily enough I don't think there was any consideration for this person to be banned, he wasn't even removed as a member of staff.

because he did us all a favor.

[Emera]

I think you should be able set set ban times for players yourself in days or hours, as long as the ban time is under a week. Anything over that should be given in a list. But like Thor said, I don't agree on the ban time given for that at all.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

could leaking information maybe mean private or sensitive information about a person and not the server?

This is what I was thinking. I'd be very surprised if it meant anything other than personal information of another player/staff member.

[skillmaster19]

Stefan added this for a special occasion because I was banned for this reason; I leaked info about an upcoming release on the Classic iPhone server and it was labeled as server destruction(well I told a close friend)... so he added a more appropriate reason for me after I emailed him. Don't even ask what the leaked info was as it wasn't even correct lol.

[Galdor]

Originally Posted by skillmaster19

Stefan added this for a special occasion because I was banned for this reason; I leaked info about an upcoming release on the Classic iPhone server and it was labeled as server destruction(well I told a close friend)... so he added a more appropriate reason for me after I emailed him. Don't even ask what the leaked info was as it wasn't even correct lol.

But so how did they find out? was your "close friend" a backstabbing ass?

[ffcmike]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

We ALL know who you are referring to. No need to make it anonymous!

I'm not trying to make an issue out of something that happened over 3 years ago or use this as an opportunity to hinder his reputation:

Originally Posted by Crono

because he did us all a favor.

[DustyPorViva]

I like how low sexual harassment is on that list. Who the hell actually uses these predefined reasons accurately anyways? All staff want is the time, the reasons mean nothing and do nothing but confuse the player.

"I was hacking, but clearly the staff think I was sharing accounts... that's not right, this is so unfair!"

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

We ALL know who you are referring to. No need to make it anonymous!

I don't

[fowlplay4]

In Russia, Information leaks you!

[jacob_bald6225]

I for one applaud DC for stopping what was going to become of classic!

He deserved a medal and not a ban!

[Galdor]

I'll give +rep to whoever tells us the story of DC and his greasy drama adventures.

[skillmaster19]

Originally Posted by Galdor

But so how did they find out? was your "close friend" a backstabbing ass?

Ya pretty much. Obviously not a friend anymore.

[ff7chocoboknight]

Leaking information like Viper or Jellyfish = Lifetime Global Ban

Leaking information about a quest = Just fire that staff member

[DarkCloud_PK]

Originally Posted by ffcmike

I can remember a time on Classic where a particular member of staff through script gave themself unauthorised access to certain new areas under development, and with negative intention uploaded a video showing everything to YouTube. It can even be argued that this action played a large role in the Development Admin of the time quitting soon afterwards, yet funnily enough I don't think there was any consideration for this person to be banned, he wasn't even removed as a member of staff.

get off my nuts, i did us all a favor.
didnt use a script either i just had access there.

[ffcmike]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

get off my nuts, i did us all a favor.
didnt use a script either i just had access there.

I see you're getting better at deciphering the point.

[Galdor]

still haven't used my rep points...

[Sword]

On a game that only sees 100+ players at its absolute busiest of times, the last thing we need are bans like this.

[Bell]

I'm fairly certain this ban was created for iPhone/facebook Graal. Most pc servers feel that a preview or leaking of upcoming changes can create an air of excitement and anticipation. The opposite side of the debate feels that any prerelease tends to deflate the anticipation.

Its all a matter of opinion really. I personally think the reality lies somewhere in between. A little mystery along with a little peak behind the curtain and as the old saying goes. Curiosity kills the cat but satisfaction brought him back.

[DarkCloud_PK]

[smirt362]

If I got banned for every time I leaked information to people I'd probably still be serving out my sentence.

[skillmaster19]

Originally Posted by smirt362

If I got banned for every time I leaked information to people I'd probably still be serving out my sentence.

ya I got global banned for it >_> and it was hardly leaking, I told one very close friend that backstabbed me...

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by skillmaster19

I told one very close friend that backstabbed me...

That's pretty much what leaking is.

[papajchris]

Originally Posted by skillmaster19

ya I got global banned for it >_> and it was hardly leaking, I told one very close friend that backstabbed me...

Now that you're banned, mine as well tell everyone

[Galdor]

Yea you weak pantsy soft wimps, I mean isn't it was this forum is all about? scam, gambling, leaking information and drama. It's what brings us all together, the scum of the earth gathered on one green forum.

[FaLLChiLD]

It is quite green, isn't it?

[dude2020]

needs more green

[racycle]

I feel better knowing that we slap ban labels on things to fix our problems.

[Bell]

Originally Posted by racycle

I feel better knowing that we slap ban labels on things to fix our problems.

Its child abuse to duct tape their hands and mouths so this was the next best thing!

[maximus_asinus]

you can duct tape my hands and mouth any day

[Bell]

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

you can duct tape my hands and mouth any day

You wouldn't like what I do with my rusty knife afterwards though.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Galdor

Yea you weak pantsy soft wimps, I mean isn't it was this forum is all about? scam, gambling, leaking information and drama. It's what brings us all together, the scum of the earth gathered on one green forum.

Galdor... where did you learn to say such negative things? You've learned well.

[Emera]

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

you can duct tape my hands and mouth any day

Originally Posted by Bell

You wouldn't like what I do with my rusty knife afterwards though.

Lets keep this PG13, although I totally agree