New payment methods available

[Admins]

In the Shop-Refill dialog you can now see a new way for payments: SuperRewards which allows payment with credit card, paypal, phone and more. We were already using it successfully for Facebook and also plan to use it for the Android version.
Hope this will solve some problems.

[callimuc]

I can´t use the Super Rewards. This keeps popping up when I go to the Super Rewards:

[Admins]

Ok you are probably using v5?
It should work fine now.

[skillmaster19]

It allows you to get gelats from doing various free offers such as downloading applications,doing a survey, and registering for emails. You can also get large amounts by doing larger things like getting a subscription to various websites. This will definitely bring players who don't want to pay for gold. Now when will servers with gelat shops get full custimization avaliable for trials? Other than that great job stefan

ps
Half of these programs have opencandy DX I have bad experiences with it.

[Admins]

Originally Posted by skillmaster19

It allows you to get gelats from doing various free offers such as downloading applications,doing a survey, and registering for emails. You can also get large amounts by doing larger things like getting a subscription to various websites. This will definitely bring players who don't want to pay for gold. Now when will servers with gelat shops get full custimization avaliable for trials? Other than that great job stefan

ps
Half of these programs have opencandy DX I have bad experiences with it.

That's the disadvantage of the free offers, they are free but you have to install stuff. But there are also a lot of payment options, including scratch cards, paypal, phone (including the current provider) and more.

[Sinkler]

Excellent! This should make paying for Graal 10x easier.

[Galdor]

[Supaman771]

Pretty cool, I looked through the free offers for awhile.
I did one and got 94 gelats.
Did a second and got a virus, 10 min system restore.

That's the end of that.

[MattKan]

Could anybody list some of the offers that work and are not viruses, please? It would probably help more people than just me lol.

[Supaman771]

I did the TV show quiz thing for 94gelats. It was actually not that bad haha, you choose some shows you watched yesterday (I watched Falling Skies and Saving Private Ryan on TNT yesterday) Then I did the quizzes.
It was 3 quizzes but I only got the reward once, so yeah.. only gotta do one.

Just read the descriptions.. some say install and some say 'Enter verified Email' or even some just require you to vote for their website (1 click).

[Twinny]

I haven't tried myself but I have a potential solution:

Download your virtualisation platform of choice (Microsoft Virtual PC, VMware Viewer (the free one), VirtualBox (my favourite), etc), create a new virtual machine and install XP (or whatever Windows you have around handy).

Once you've done this, perform anything potentially dangerous in the virtual

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by Twinny

I haven't tried myself but I have a potential solution:

Download your virtualisation platform of choice (Microsoft Virtual PC, VMware Viewer (the free one), VirtualBox (my favourite), etc), create a new virtual machine and install XP (or whatever Windows you have around handy).

Once you've done this, perform anything potentially dangerous in the virtual

Or go to the library.

[oo_jazz_oo]

Or have a payment method that isn't riddled with viruses? o.o

If Graal is aimed at kids, they aren't going to stop and think, "Hm, this might have a virus..."
It will be more like, "Free gralats? *download download download*"

[Admins]

I don't think there are really viruses x-x You can report bad offers, and we can even block them from being displayed, so you can PM me stuff when you think it's bad, possible with screenshot (don't post it here).

[PowerProNL]

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by Stefan

I don't think there are really viruses x-x You can report bad offers, and we can even block them from being displayed, so you can PM me stuff when you think it's bad, possible with screenshot (don't post it here).

The 'Wheel of Fortune' download (first one that comes up under Free).
I did it, and after accepting it prompted me with like 5 extra things to accept before it downloaded.
Obviously I said no to them all, then it dled in like half a second and when it finished my browser crashed.. AntiVir went crazy with those bubble messages.. and my CPU usage bounced to 80% with this one asdfdasdasdasd type process.

I cancelled the process and rolled back my CPU to yesterday.

Sad part is it didn't even give me my 170 or w.e Gelats.

[Crono]

people are complaining about spam mail, adware, and there's probably spyware too.

[ReptarKingOfTheOZone]

this one is most likely a virus :-
Shape the future of the internet with Nielsen



This year we are giving away 30,000 cash to 150 lucky winners!

No purchase required to receive 573 Gelats

Gelats awarded when you install the meter to your computer and leave installed for at least 1 month. Offer reports on a 15 minute delay.

didnt click it but the easiest method to gain the most gelats. just seems dodgy.

[gravator]

I'm amazed you used surveys as a means of offering free gralats stefan, A large portion of surveys are only intended to fill your e-mail with spam or are a means to deliver malware and spyware by looking like surveys, and many surveys do not end at all, i tried once to do a survey for a free PS3 and spent a full five and a half hours before i gave up on it.

Perhaps try another way to offer gralats to your customers, like rewarding them when they submit quality content? That would certainly inspire people to improve their work and weed out the ones that just want a staff spot even though they have no skills.

[DustyPorViva]

Soon there will be a flood of threads: "Graal used to run fine but now it runs so slow!" because all the little kids desperate for gralats will have downloaded 50 various toolbars, crap applications, and by the sound of it, viruses, to their computer.

[skillmaster19]

I got a useless chrome extension for one of them, it replaced words when you hover over them with ads that pop up. Think it was livingplay games or something like that. anyways no more free offers gelats for me lol.

[Tricxta]

Would it be possible to reward gelats for say every 25 rep points you receive. it could potentially make the forums a cleaner place with less spam :0

[Chris500]

This is a very innovative system of payment for subscription. Graal is reaching levels that other games have started tapping into and is moving into the 21st century finally. I'm glad. Even if there are viruses - avoid downloading things unless you're in a virtual machine or use something like Sandboxie, as others have said.

Make a junk e-mail and relish in the fact that, if you tried hard enough, you will not have to pay for Graal anymore. Wonderful feature. Thank you!

[Rave_J]

dude this is great i just got over 1300 grelats ez

[Jiroxys7]

Aside from the spam (which I still got even though I entered a fake e-mail address into one of the surveys) and the supposed adware, there are some silly offers there too. One of them was a survey to check your "Real Age". Thing is, it said you're only eligible if you are over 40 years old.

Also, you can edit the URL in order to access super rewards for other users. This could be abusable somehow, but I didn't really look into it.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Jiroxys7

Also, you can edit the URL in order to access super rewards for other users. This could be abusable somehow, but I didn't really look into it.

Feel free to complete some rewards for my account.

[oo_jazz_oo]

The rewards do actually work. I just find it in bad taste to teach kids to download programs blindly in order to get free things in games.

Not that spending your parents money without them knowing is any better...at least then your now putting them at risk for viruses that might destroy their computer and/or steal their information. Just my two cents tho.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by oo_jazz_oo

The rewards do actually work. I just find it in bad taste to teach kids to download programs blindly in order to get free things in games.

Not that spending your parents money without them knowing is any better...at least then your now putting them at risk for viruses that might destroy their computer and/or steal their information. Just my two cents tho.

I'm quite certain the SuperRewards guys try to keep their stuff virus-free.

[james544]

They try to, but it's unavoidable at points.

[ReptarKingOfTheOZone]

whether you get free gelats or not, i dont think its worth the risk of a possible harmful virus.

[Bell]

Originally Posted by oo_jazz_oo

The rewards do actually work. I just find it in bad taste to teach kids to download programs blindly in order to get free things in games.

Not that spending your parents money without them knowing is any better...at least then your now putting them at risk for viruses that might destroy their computer and/or steal their information. Just my two cents tho.

I don't feel that Graal is teaching them something that they and their parents aren't already aware of. Not only are people exposed to this sort of thing on practically every game site on the web, they come across it almost every time they do a search on their computers. Some people are more cautious than others with downloading and there will always be a risk.

I've been receiving survey offers for years now, some good, some bad. You just have to decide what you're comfortable with. I have an email I use just for random stuff I know I'll get spam from and only take a look at it every few months to see just how much spam is there for kicks.

I'm glad to see that other options are being offered, its a step forward into the future for Graal.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Bell

Not only are people exposed to this sort of thing on practically every game site on the web

What game sites have you been visiting?

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by skillmaster19

Think it was livingplay games or something like that.

Yeah this is the 'Wheel of Fortune' one I downloaded that crashed my browser and had virus-like effects. Once you download the main game it prompts you to download mad other stuff (toolbars, livingplay browser thing, etc.) Just be sure to uncheck the boxes and not just click 'Next' 10 times in the future.

[Jiroxys7]

Originally Posted by Bell

I don't feel that Graal is teaching them something that they and their parents aren't already aware of. Not only are people exposed to this sort of thing on practically every game site on the web, they come across it almost every time they do a search on their computers. Some people are more cautious than others with downloading and there will always be a risk.

I've been receiving survey offers for years now, some good, some bad. You just have to decide what you're comfortable with. I have an email I use just for random stuff I know I'll get spam from and only take a look at it every few months to see just how much spam is there for kicks.
I'm glad to see that other options are being offered, its a step forward into the future for Graal.

That apparently won't work so well here. I clicked on one of the offers and entered a completely bogus e-mail address into the field. Yet it seems like it read the e-mail address that is linked to my graalonline account as I suddenly began receiving spam on my real e-mail account.

[Bell]

Originally Posted by Crono

What game sites have you been visiting?

Kongregate uses them for gaining free kreds. Gamestop calls them PowerUp rewards. A couple poker sites my husband uses offered them as well. Most of the ones I've come across though used them as advertising revenue only and if you subscribed to their offers you just got chances at drawings.

Originally Posted by Jiroxys7

That apparently won't work so well here. I clicked on one of the offers and entered a completely bogus e-mail address into the field. Yet it seems like it read the e-mail address that is linked to my graalonline account as I suddenly began receiving spam on my real e-mail account.

Maybe thats the problem, you used a totally bogus email. I use a real email but one that I don't bother to look at.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Bell

I don't feel that Graal is teaching them something that they and their parents aren't already aware of. Not only are people exposed to this sort of thing on practically every game site on the web, they come across it almost every time they do a search on their computers. Some people are more cautious than others with downloading and there will always be a risk.

What parents/kids do you deal with on a daily basis? I dunno about you, but I do all kinds of virus clean-ups/repairs for people and generally... the average user doesn't know what the hell they're doing when they're on a PC, and this especially includes kids(if my two younger sisters and nephew are a basis to go by).

"Oh no, this window that popped up said I had viruses! Oh no oh no oh no I should really download what it recommends me!"

[Jiroxys7]

Originally Posted by Bell

Maybe thats the problem, you used a totally bogus email. I use a real email but one that I don't bother to look at.

Well I didn't really expect them to have access to my real e-mail. Besides, if I entered a bogus e-mail, there's a reason for it (I don't want them knowing my e-mail)

Most sites will return the "please enter a valid e-mail address" error when you do what I did anyway, so I'm sure the site didn't really care. If I entered another one of my e-mail addresses, I have little doubt that I would be getting spam in both accounts.

[james544]

Just got gold on a new account .
@ReptarKingOfTheOZone: Thats only for downloading the programs, just fill out the surveys and you're fine. I haven't received any viruses from the surveys (Unless norton blocked it, but it always gives me notifications if it blocked a virus.) So I'm pretty sure the sites are safe.

[Mark Sir Link]

can add Nexon to the list of companies using this particular reward service if you want

[oo_jazz_oo]

I just think its unsavory to have downloading things as an option for gaining gralats.

If the attitude here is, "Well, since their already exposed to viruses, it doesn't matter if we expose them too.", then that's rather sad.

For anyone who has dealt with a family member who has downloaded too many programs, installed too many toolbars, and randomly filled out every survey thats passed through their inbox, you know whats its like to clean out those computers.
I think its safe to say the average Facebook user would fall into this category.

Stefan said he can block certain offers? It would be as easy as just not allowing the download offers...to me that seems like the most responsible option.