iClassic

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Even if developers did get paid it wouldn't be nearly enough (at the most I see it paying for a team lunch every couple weeks or so) to compensate us for the time spent, and money certainly isn't the end-all-be-all of development incentive either.

Graal development will improve when a few things happen:

1. Documentation gets a serious facelift. (Graal Administration will need to be involved, and help with this instead of expecting volunteers to do everything.)
2. Tools and updates get made to make the Development Platform more accessible, as well as to show current developers that they still care.
3. Subscriptions being completely revamped/removed.
4. Observer Mode being completely removed.

I would like to also add to it that more than just graal development will be improved upon implementing these fixes if accompanied with proper advertisement considering their progression with Graal as of late.

[skillmaster19]

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...6&postcount=59

In addition to my ideas in this post, I think developers should receive a small amount of gelat purchases spent on their servers to give them a reason to put a large amount of effort into a server. Will it make them enough money to make a living? No, but it would be nice to make a little extra spending money off of developing a Graal server.

[MattKan]

Originally Posted by skillmaster19

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...6&postcount=59

In addition to my ideas in this post, I think developers should receive a small amount of gelat purchases spent on their servers to give them a reason to put a large amount of effort into a server. Will it make them enough money to make a living? No, but it would be nice to make a little extra spending money off of developing a Graal server.

This is already being done... I'm pretty sure Xor gets paid a little bit of money

[HomoPanda]

Originally Posted by MattKan

This is already being done... I'm pretty sure Xor gets paid a little bit of money

im sure he does. But it would be helpful to the players if he choose a staff that actally wanted to help iClassic and not just walk around with the staff tag and tools they get.

90% of iClassic's staff dont do their jobs, i see, player's see it, but Xor has yet to see it. Y? Because when you try to make a complaint, you get jailed, banned, or gagged and that discourages players to speak their mind about things, which leads to people clicking the delete button on Graal IPhone/ITouch. I can do a better job as a PR on iClassic, then any of their current PR's, and i can guarantee that, but ill never get the chance because iClassic Staff never has openings for fresh new members.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by HomoPanda

im sure he does. But it would be helpful to the players if he choose a staff that actally wanted to help iClassic and not just walk around with the staff tag and tools they get.

90% of iClassic's staff dont do their jobs, i see, player's see it, but Xor has yet to see it. Y? Because when you try to make a complaint, you get jailed, banned, or gagged and that discourages players to speak their mind about things, which leads to people clicking the delete button on Graal IPhone/ITouch. I can do a better job as a PR on iClassic, then any of their current PR's, and i can guarantee that, but ill never get the chance because iClassic Staff never has openings for fresh new members.

Protest on the bridge.

[HomoPanda]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Protest on the bridge.

and get another long 24 hr ban? ha no thx

[Geno]

wha wha wha wha. HomoPanda you are not helping the situation, if anything you are just going to make staff members dislike you even more, as well as some community members here on the forums.

complaining about no real updates won't make them produce real updates

the only way updates will be carried out is by the free will of the staff members and perhaps if people develop content and submit it.

so instead of wha wha wha-ing how about you build some quests and script some awesome items as prizes at the end, then maybe the players would see the updates you cry about.

Boom.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by HomoPanda

and get another long 24 hr ban? ha no thx

they can't ban everyone. get everyone. grab a sign. stand on the bridge and protest. this has always worked in the past. always.

[HomoPanda]

Originally Posted by Geno

so instead of wha wha wha-ing how about you build some quests and script some awesome items as prizes at the end, then maybe the players would see the updates you cry about.

Because its not my job to develop things for iClassic, thats the job of the people who work for iClassic. Id be more then happy to script things for iClassic, but i dont know what they want scripted. So how about taking your "internet tough guy" attidude and going else where, kthxbai.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by HomoPanda

So how about taking your "internet tough guy" attidude and going else where, kthxbai.

Stop being so rude.

Geno is a cool as heck dude and one day you'll probably wish that you could chill out with him in real life and he'll remember your bad attitude and he'll say "nah bro, suck it", and then won't your face be so red?

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Stop being so rude.

Geno is a cool as heck dude and one day you'll probably wish that you could chill out with him in real life and he'll remember your bad attitude and he'll say "nah bro, suck it", and then won't your face be so red?

lol, the Geno comment aside Demisis is right, you should be a lot more curdious and polite when it comes to requests such as you're giving. If you don't respond with a good attitude, it's only going to come back to slam you in the face ten times over and that is the rules of the interwebz.

[Geno]

i was being rude to him too. but hell. he made a thread complaining about staff not developing content. common thats the story for the past forever, it gets old so i get mean.

If you don't want to develop your own stuff then stop demanding that others do it. this inst that type of party.


Boom

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Geno

i was being rude to him too. but hell. he made a thread complaining about staff not developing content. common thats the story for the past forever it gets old so i get mean.

If you don't want to develop your own stuff then stop demanding that others do it. this inst that type of party.

Yes, but your act of "rudeness" was more just than his, you actually had some ground to say what you wanted to say; however Panda here from my perspective doesn't appear to have the ground to support and claim his rant.

@Panda, what I'm saying is if you're going to attempt to demand anything from anyone, you must be able to negotiate it instead of practically venting what we already know, otherwise nothing gets done.

[Geno]

Originally Posted by HomoPanda

Because when you try to make a complaint, you get jailed, banned, or gagged and that discourages players to speak their mind

this statement is un-true and ignorant sounding.

BUT, When I am king moderator, I solemnly pledge to make sure this policy applies to you on the forums.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Geno

BUT, When I am king moderator, I solemnly pledge to make sure this policy applies to you on the forums.

Should make me a normal mod :[