New Guns Shop?

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by swift

OP

This should be simpler for you swift, I thought you were smart.
No.

Why?

Because:

1. More than half the items on the server were spawned, there is no balance, it would be impossible to price an item like Mp5 when 2 more come up every day by random oldbies logging in. (I tracked Mp5 every month after I got mine by people quitting/selling them... it went a little something like: 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 4, 9, 13, 20, *stop counting*)
2. The current economy is too lopsided for this to fix anything, the rich players will yes... still be rich.
3. Everyone will have an Mp5 eventually, like pking isn't bad enough already (banned the best player, gave retards gang leadership, handed out top guns like they were candy, etc).
4. It's already been 3 months since they SAID they would 'balance' gang guns... and that's only four weapons that are obtainable. Try balancing every gun on the server.
5. It will more than likely result in new problems (increased scamming to sell guns into the shop (like when fort knox came out), shop bugs, influx of cash).
6. It won't fix the economy, players will just be pushed higher and higher up the gun ladder with the availability, making the economy WORSE.
7. Trading would be eradicated.
8. Auctions would be pointless.
9. Your mother would be displeased.
10. Reset is pretty much required.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by salesman

All weapons should definitely be obtainable, but putting everything in one shop is lame. There should be several shops around that map that sell different kinds of weapons. Each shop should also buy back its own weapons. This is something I've always wanted to do, but it has always been pushed off until the reset so that we don't upset players who "worked hard" for their weapons.

Era shouldn't revolve around trading exclusive items--it just breeds the worst kind of scumbag players.

I only read the first post, so I'm sorry if someone else has already said this.

a reset? i can tell u for sure that it would half era's playercount if not completely kill the server
and even if an item is exclusive what's the problem with that? im obviously against having one gun on the game 10x better than the others but if there are guns which are rarer than others (not necessarily insane guns! for example p2ks are quite rare but are less effective than a famas which is worth 10x less, same applies for s6 which is 3 of a kind but is extremely similar to hk416 and morano thompson). it would be so dull seeing everyone using the same 3-4 guns (i.e. if you have 100k you're gonna use smgpk, if you have 200k ur gonna use s6, if u have 2mil ur gonna use mp5. many guns would be used by nobody and this would become extremely boring..the rarest guns would become the worst since nobody buys them and the remaining ones have been pawned

[bloodykiller]

[QUOTE=Supaman771;1628266]This should be simpler for you swift, I thought you were smart.
[*]The currently economy is too lopsided for this to fix anything, the rich players will yes... still be rich.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

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You, stop whining about a reset.
It is the only way the server can possibly be fixed from a economic standpoint.

It won't kill the player count, I'm sure a few might cry and quit... then I'm even surer some new kids would come try it out with a fair chance and some oldbies might hop back on.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Supaman771

You, stop whining about a reset.
It is the only way the server can possibly be fixed from a economic standpoint.

It won't kill the player count, I'm sure a few might cry and quit... then I'm even surer some new kids would come try it out with a fair chance and some oldbies might hop back on.

still crying cuz u got reset?

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

still crying cuz u got reset?

trololol

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

still crying cuz u got reset?

I didn't mention myself in any of my points, they are all completely valid and have nothing to do with my personal situation.

If you want to know [in 3 points]:

1. I don't care that I was reset because most of my items were spawned.
2. I don't care that I was reset because I'm good enough to play without the items I lost.
3. I don't care that I was reset because it gave me a chance to quit and get away from you retards.

So I don't see how that has anything to do with the validity of my argument. And seeing that you can't at all justify your reasoning I'll just ignore you now. 'trololol.'

Now after heading back and reading through a few pages of the thread...

Originally Posted by swift

The only reason you say no is because you own certain items that you don't want other players getting their hands on through the shop.

It seems like you already made up your mind on wanting this, why make a forum post?

Originally Posted by codecub

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I agree with every single post in this thread this guy has made.

Originally Posted by swift

You said Demisis is a noob and acts like he knows everything, when you're here running your mouth like a big shot.

Explain how I am a terrible guns admin and how you could do any better. You don't even know how to speak proper English. And I don't know about prices? A brain dead monkey could mass out a price check on a gun to get a price for it.

All guns should be made possible to get by players without having to worry about working for 1mil when they make probably 3k an hour shoveling or mining. Do you understand how repetitive and boring that is? It's stupid and maybe there should be better or "easier" ways of making money, but that would take x10 the time and work to make instead of just making a shop that players can purchase any of the guns from.

How much are you expecting these guns to be costing? You think Mp5 is going to be cheap? Obviously not. Only a select few will be able to get one if they have the money or they work for it.

Explain how you are not a terrible guns admin, because you obviously didn't with this post.

A brain dead monkey can reply to a price check with the wrong information, and that is about 90% of Era's population.

Again... why'd you make this thread if you're already decided and fighting for one option?

Lol, really? That last point has no foundation... think just a inch deeper bro. If the people that can afford Mp5 buy it, and money drains down... the prices will go down and you will have to continually adjust it, then once at a point where EVERYONE is working for money rather than passing around the same spawned money you will be in the same situation (on a smaller scale of course).
Ie. Right now people say Mp5 is 2million, yet no one on the server actually HAS 2million... making the price an illegitimate benchmark. Imagine how a newb feels logging on having someone tell him the gun he wants is a price that is virtually impossible to pay under any circumstances?

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Supaman771

I didn't mention myself in any of my points, they are all completely valid and have nothing to do with my personal situation.

If you want to know [in 3 points]:

1. I don't care that I was reset because most of my items were spawned.
2. I don't care that I was reset because I'm good enough to play without the items I lost.
3. I don't care that I was reset because it gave me a chance to quit and get away from you retards.

So I don't see how that has anything to do with the validity of my argument. And seeing that you can't at all justify your reasoning I'll just ignore you now. 'trololol.'

Now after heading back and reading through a few pages of the thread...


It seems like you already made up your mind on wanting this, why make a forum post?



I agree with every single post in this thread this guy has made.



Explain how you are not a terrible guns admin, because you obviously didn't with this post.

A brain dead monkey can reply to a price check with the wrong information, and that is about 90% of Era's population.

Again... why'd you make this thread if you're already decided and fighting for one option?

Lol, really? That last point has no foundation... think just a inch deeper bro. If the people that can afford Mp5 buy it, and money drains down... the prices will go down and you will have to continually adjust it, then once at a point where EVERYONE is working for money rather than passing around the same spawned money you will be in the same situation (on a smaller scale of course).
Ie. Right now people say Mp5 is 2million, yet no one on the server actually HAS 2million... making the price an illegitimate benchmark. Imagine how a newb feels logging on having someone tell him the gun he wants is a price that is virtually impossible to pay under any circumstances?

u were terrible with mp5, without ur rly pathetic
and 2-3ppl have over 2mil, other than u can also trade in items for mp5

[Knux]

Do whatever you want on there. I got 100k to spend, and nothing to spend it on because everyone is an ******* on Era. You can't buy anything because people want 50k more than they bought the **** for.

[Herb_P2P]

i'll sell you dual handguns for 50,250

[WillaWonka]

Originally Posted by Knux

Do whatever you want on there. I got 100k to spend, and nothing to spend it on because everyone is an ******* on Era. You can't buy anything because people want 50k more than they bought the **** for.

Merchanting = How to be rich


No one shoveled 2mil for a mp5 so dont worry about how others buy low sell high. It is virtually impossible to make money nowadays unless you spend 8+ hrs a day on it with a net gain of 32k that day. Not counting the workers pot, but no one has the ability to shovel/mine all day for that. If you want to go against that those who did shovel 8hrs+ a day used macro and most likely got banned once in their game time. I would like easier money making, large gun system to buy/sell from and a larger gmap. You dont see the most popular games in the world suffer from economic crisis and problems with becoming rich. The game already has 80+ guns, a bunch of melees and a few other things that make this game different, if you can stabilize the economy and enlarge the gmap (advertise this game aswell) we can solve many problems.

Everything stated above will never be achieved. Thats just a fact we got to deal with, pffft, this game will never be popular. Harharhar.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by WillaWonka

Merchanting = How to be rich


No one shoveled 2mil for a mp5 so dont worry about how others buy low sell high. It is virtually impossible to make money nowadays unless you spend 8+ hrs a day on it with a net gain of 32k that day. Not counting the workers pot, but no one has the ability to shovel/mine all day for that. If you want to go against that those who did shovel 8hrs+ a day used macro and most likely got banned once in their game time. I would like easier money making, large gun system to buy/sell from and a larger gmap. You dont see the most popular games in the world suffer from economic crisis and problems with becoming rich. The game already has 80+ guns, a bunch of melees and a few other things that make this game different, if you can stabilize the economy and enlarge the gmap (advertise this game aswell) we can solve many problems.

Everything stated above will never be achieved. Thats just a fact we got to deal with, pffft, this game will never be popular. Harharhar.

make the gmap smaller not bigger lol

[Zeross]

I don't know how far this argument has gone because you people write too much and its boring stuff.

However, this idea is really illogical without an appropriate reset.
You are saying you want to set the prices of everything to somewhat affordable.
However, who are you to say whats affordable or "appropriate" and whats not?
What of those players that spent ages trying to obtain these items and that PAID those unaffordable prices, how do you compensate them?

Or do we not worry about the well-being of the players anymore?
Even though Reck is rich, he has a very valid point.
You cannot dismiss those who have earned their items at those unfair circumstances.

Either you lookup the street price of those items, and compensate the people for every dollar LESS that you drop said price in the shop, or you wait for a reset in which you can SET your own prices.

By compensating them I mean:
Ex. A Thompson's worth (not real): 500k

And you make it 100,000$, you compensate all Thompson owners with 400,000$.

That's the only fair way it can be done without a reset, and that method in it of itself is illogical. Therefore, this entire proposition is entirely illogical in the current era-setting.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Zeross

I don't know how far this argument has gone because you people write too much and its boring stuff.

However, this idea is really illogical without an appropriate reset.
You are saying you want to set the prices of everything to somewhat affordable.
However, who are you to say whats affordable or "appropriate" and whats not?
What of those players that spent ages trying to obtain these items and that PAID those unaffordable prices, how do you compensate them?

Or do we not worry about the well-being of the players anymore?
Even though Reck is rich, he has a very valid point.
You cannot dismiss those who have earned their items at those unfair circumstances.

Either you lookup the street price of those items, and compensate the people for every dollar LESS that you drop said price in the shop, or you wait for a reset in which you can SET your own prices.

By compensating them I mean:
Ex. A Thompson's worth (not real): 500k

And you make it 100,000$, you compensate all Thompson owners with 400,000$.

That's the only fair way it can be done without a reset, and that method in it of itself is illogical. Therefore, this entire proposition is entirely illogical in the current era-setting.

I better call my mum and let her know that Nissan owes her $12,000 then.
She paid $18,000 for her car a few years ago and a friend of mine just bought the same model for $6,000.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Zeross

I don't know how far this argument has gone because you people write too much and its boring stuff.

However, this idea is really illogical without an appropriate reset.
You are saying you want to set the prices of everything to somewhat affordable.
However, who are you to say whats affordable or "appropriate" and whats not?
What of those players that spent ages trying to obtain these items and that PAID those unaffordable prices, how do you compensate them?

Or do we not worry about the well-being of the players anymore?
Even though Reck is rich, he has a very valid point.
You cannot dismiss those who have earned their items at those unfair circumstances.

Either you lookup the street price of those items, and compensate the people for every dollar LESS that you drop said price in the shop, or you wait for a reset in which you can SET your own prices.

By compensating them I mean:
Ex. A Thompson's worth (not real): 500k

And you make it 100,000$, you compensate all Thompson owners with 400,000$.

That's the only fair way it can be done without a reset, and that method in it of itself is illogical. Therefore, this entire proposition is entirely illogical in the current era-setting.

seems like the forum is where banned players hang out