New Guns Shop?

[Jiroxys7]

Originally Posted by Zelot

I'd like to hear some other opinions from players that don't have 10m total. Dogbert is one of them, yet talking about making 2m when you start, I thought swift gave you houses? O.o.
Also hello there Demisis.

I dont have 10m total. In fact I don't really play PC Era. However, I voted no for different reasons. It's kind of a bad idea to centralize resources on your map since it could mean others areas becoming less traveled. It might not sound like a big deal, but enough of this could make a large world look a bit smaller than it is.

Though I do think all guns should be obtainable at all times SOMEWHERE.

As for your log concerns, you guys should really be connecting all of the shop NPCs to a class if that's your concern. Pass data through it containing the account name of the player that bought the item, the price paid (if it's changeable) as well as what level they're in. You could manually enter the level name data on the individual NPCs, or have it take the player level name over, then translate it to a specific name in the class, and then after that's done, have it store the data in a database or a log.

[codecub]

who's dogbert?

[Zelot]

Originally Posted by Jiroxys7

I dont have 10m total. In fact I don't really play PC Era. However, I voted no for different reasons. It's kind of a bad idea to centralize resources on your map since it could mean others areas becoming less traveled. It might not sound like a big deal, but enough of this could make a large world look a bit smaller than it is.

Though I do think all guns should be obtainable at all times SOMEWHERE.

As for your log concerns, you guys should really be connecting all of the shop NPCs to a class if that's your concern. Pass data through it containing the account name of the player that bought the item, the price paid (if it's changeable) as well as what level they're in. You could manually enter the level name data on the individual NPCs, or have it take the player level name over, then translate it to a specific name in the class, and then after that's done, have it store the data in a database or a log.

I agree that you need to be traveling, I'm sure it's not going to be a shop with a big sign saying 'GUNS R US' ALL GUNS HERE. Make it a few different shops, and they open at only certain times or certain months etc. Or maybe a hidden underground blackmarket with RPG or something. Make it fun, or even a quest.


>"whos dogbert" - codecub
>I didn't say codecub at all.
>mfw

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Zelot

You always want opinions bloodykiller, he's an outsider which is a different view. Calm down.

i have nothing against everyone's opinion but demisis posts as if he's the era expert and hhe knows it all whilst a graal132804183 prob knows more than him regarding modern era

[Zero_yuy]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

offtopic but what has to be changed on era is making money in a pking related way
take halloween as an example, when skull tokens were given as a prize for kills the playercount was crazy and people werent afking and massing but pking all the time

That. -^

[Zelot]

I doubt that, you never know. He could be playing on a seperate account or maybe just talking with his brother who plays? Even if that wasn't true, he's played before and I'm sure is friends with people that still play and listen to how it's slowly declining.

Currently though, I've got to go for a bit. Hopefully more voting and opinions will be on the forums.

[bloodykiller]

and btw the opening of this shop would only secure my position as one of the richest of the server since effective merching would no longer be possible and i already own best guns on the game and large amounts of cash

[Reckman]

Originally Posted by swift

Majority says yes for this reason duh.

The only reason you say no is because you own certain items that you don't want other players getting their hands on through the shop.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

and btw the opening of this shop would only secure my position as one of the richest of the server since effective merching would no longer be possible and i already own best guns on the game and large amounts of cash

ok good luck with all of that cash.

[Reckman]

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

ok good luck with all of that cash.

ty

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

ty

My brother has an mp5 navy that he paid 2 mil for, and I still hope they put it in a shop for 100k.

You might be able to merch, but new players that come to the game and have to mine and dig to buy their first AK are extremely put off by the fact that certain gun are worth millions and they're making a few grand an hour.

Era should never have been allowed to get as bad as it is now, and just because it worked out okay for you doesn't mean it should stay that way.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

My brother has an mp5 navy that he paid 2 mil for, and I still hope they put it in a shop for 100k.

You might be able to merch, but new players that come to the game and have to mine and dig to buy their first AK are extremely put off by the fact that certain gun are worth millions and they're making a few grand an hour.

Era should never have been allowed to get as bad as it is now, and just because it worked out okay for you doesn't mean it should stay that way.

buff working or make money making a fun thing (pking) instead of lousy working
whos ur bro btw?

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

buff working or make money making a fun thing (pking) instead of lousy working
whos ur bro btw?

Nerfing gun prices is easier than buffing working and then adjusting the prices of ammo, lockers, cars, gas, houses, armor, food, etc.
Gun prices are the only thing that have blown completely out of proportion.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Nerfing gun prices is easier than buffing working and then adjusting the prices of ammo, lockers, cars, gas, houses, armor, food, etc.
Gun prices are the only thing that have blown completely out of proportion.

if nerfing gun prices means bringing out this new system then changing all that other stuff is definitely better

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

if nerfing gun prices means bringing out this new system then changing all that other stuff is definitely better

For you.

Not for everyone else.
Sorry yall.

You're really scared about other people getting to use good guns aren't you?

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

For you.

Not for everyone else.
Sorry yall.

You're really scared about other people getting to use good guns aren't you?

not really..i dont like this system because
1. swift is a terrible guns admin and doesnt know anything about prices
2. some items are exclusive and not made to be for everyone in an unlimited supply
3. auctions are more fun

[codecub]

lmao this thread went to sh1t very fast

[swift]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

not really..i dont like this system because
1. swift is a terrible guns admin and doesnt know anything about prices
2. some items are exclusive and not made to be for everyone in an unlimited supply
3. auctions are more fun

You said Demisis is a noob and acts like he knows everything, when you're here running your mouth like a big shot.

Explain how I am a terrible guns admin and how you could do any better. You don't even know how to speak proper English. And I don't know about prices? A brain dead monkey could mass out a price check on a gun to get a price for it.

All guns should be made possible to get by players without having to worry about working for 1mil when they make probably 3k an hour shoveling or mining. Do you understand how repetitive and boring that is? It's stupid and maybe there should be better or "easier" ways of making money, but that would take x10 the time and work to make instead of just making a shop that players can purchase any of the guns from.

How much are you expecting these guns to be costing? You think Mp5 is going to be cheap? Obviously not. Only a select few will be able to get one if they have the money or they work for it.

[salesman]

All weapons should definitely be obtainable, but putting everything in one shop is lame. There should be several shops around that map that sell different kinds of weapons. Each shop should also buy back its own weapons. This is something I've always wanted to do, but it has always been pushed off until the reset so that we don't upset players who "worked hard" for their weapons.

Era shouldn't revolve around trading exclusive items--it just breeds the worst kind of scumbag players.

I only read the first post, so I'm sorry if someone else has already said this.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by salesman

All weapons should definitely be obtainable, but putting everything in one shop is lame. There should be several shops around that map that sell different kinds of weapons. Each shop should also buy back its own weapons. This is something I've always wanted to do, but it has always been pushed off until the reset so that we don't upset players who "worked hard" for their weapons.

Era shouldn't revolve around trading exclusive items--it just breeds the worst kind of scumbag players.

I only read the first post, so I'm sorry if someone else has already said this.

Nope you got it spot on.

But I think that for now just having everything available in one store is better than nothing.

[swift]

I didn't bring out the idea for it to be a single shop, I just wanted it to make it to where all guns are buyable/pawnable through a store, whether it be 1 store or 10 stores. I don't care.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by swift

I didn't bring out the idea for it to be a single shop, I just wanted it to make it to where all guns are buyable/pawnable through a store, whether it be 1 store or 10 stores. I don't care.

Question; why would you want 10 pawn shops? Just make it one and don't waste developers time.

[GarethOmni]

Question: You've been doing it this way for the past 5 years, it still hasn't worked. Lets do something new for a change, like not waiting for some reset that we all know will never happen.

Wasting developers time would be asking them to place 10 easy levels around the gmap that didn't serve a purpose. However, that is not the case.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by GarethOmni

Wasting developers time would be asking them to place 10 easy levels around the gmap that didn't serve a purpose. However, that is not the case.

Redundancy isn't effective.

[GarethOmni]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Redundancy isn't effective.

It's worked for staff for the past 5 years. Why stop now?

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by GarethOmni

It's worked for staff for the past 5 years. Why stop now?

Staff have worked? when the **** did this happen?

[GarethOmni]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Staff have worked? when the **** did this happen?

You are like that one guy who complains about nothing being done just because he doesn't notice something actually being done.

[Shadow5596321]

Originally Posted by GarethOmni

You are like that one guy who complains about nothing being done just because he doesn't notice something actually being done.

Originally Posted by Reckman

..

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by GarethOmni

-Blatant Accusation due to lack of arguemental Ground-

I don't even have to argue with you and you found a way to lose.

[GarethOmni]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

I don't even have to argue with you and you found a way to lose.

I'm not going to waste any more of my time typing responses to your ignorance after this post. I was going to put something witty in here, but nah.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by GarethOmni

I'm not going to waste any more of my time typing responses to your ignorance after this post. I was going to put something witty in here, but nah.

At least you admit defeat when you lose, but to add sting to insult; when did you have something witty to say?

[Shadow5596321]

Originally Posted by GarethOmni

I don't have anything witty to post, so I'm going to try to make it seem like I had something witty to say.

orly?

[Dnegel]

Originally Posted by Reckman

Lol great gif right there

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by swift

You said Demisis is a noob and acts like he knows everything, when you're here running your mouth like a big shot.

Explain how I am a terrible guns admin and how you could do any better. You don't even know how to speak proper English. And I don't know about prices? A brain dead monkey could mass out a price check on a gun to get a price for it.

All guns should be made possible to get by players without having to worry about working for 1mil when they make probably 3k an hour shoveling or mining. Do you understand how repetitive and boring that is? It's stupid and maybe there should be better or "easier" ways of making money, but that would take x10 the time and work to make instead of just making a shop that players can purchase any of the guns from.

How much are you expecting these guns to be costing? You think Mp5 is going to be cheap? Obviously not. Only a select few will be able to get one if they have the money or they work for it.

as i said before, i agree that ALL prices are too high and the top items shouldnt go over 500k
i remember when p2ks were like the best gun around (before the reset) and they were 25-30k each, which was considered as an insane amount of cash
LOL if u think massing a pc is enough. a guns admin massing a pc from random people? sad... if you mass p.c. of an item with a currenltly instable price, for example pl9 shotgun, people will say 150k, but the fact is that there are 2-3 active pl9s left and price has gone way up, same applies for light sabre or recently buffed guns like p90 or famas. you dont know prices (no staff member does) so you are not capable of opening this shop without destroying the economy.
oh and kid, ur 15 dont tell me i cant speak english when i have an ib diploma (which u will never manage to obtain unless you consist of the smart 3% of america's population), i just write quickly on here cuz i dnt rly care if i make mistakes lol nobody's marking my work and im no nerd

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by swift

OP

This should be simpler for you swift, I thought you were smart.
No.

Why?

Because:

1. More than half the items on the server were spawned, there is no balance, it would be impossible to price an item like Mp5 when 2 more come up every day by random oldbies logging in. (I tracked Mp5 every month after I got mine by people quitting/selling them... it went a little something like: 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 4, 9, 13, 20, *stop counting*)
2. The current economy is too lopsided for this to fix anything, the rich players will yes... still be rich.
3. Everyone will have an Mp5 eventually, like pking isn't bad enough already (banned the best player, gave retards gang leadership, handed out top guns like they were candy, etc).
4. It's already been 3 months since they SAID they would 'balance' gang guns... and that's only four weapons that are obtainable. Try balancing every gun on the server.
5. It will more than likely result in new problems (increased scamming to sell guns into the shop (like when fort knox came out), shop bugs, influx of cash).
6. It won't fix the economy, players will just be pushed higher and higher up the gun ladder with the availability, making the economy WORSE.
7. Trading would be eradicated.
8. Auctions would be pointless.
9. Your mother would be displeased.
10. Reset is pretty much required.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by salesman

All weapons should definitely be obtainable, but putting everything in one shop is lame. There should be several shops around that map that sell different kinds of weapons. Each shop should also buy back its own weapons. This is something I've always wanted to do, but it has always been pushed off until the reset so that we don't upset players who "worked hard" for their weapons.

Era shouldn't revolve around trading exclusive items--it just breeds the worst kind of scumbag players.

I only read the first post, so I'm sorry if someone else has already said this.

a reset? i can tell u for sure that it would half era's playercount if not completely kill the server
and even if an item is exclusive what's the problem with that? im obviously against having one gun on the game 10x better than the others but if there are guns which are rarer than others (not necessarily insane guns! for example p2ks are quite rare but are less effective than a famas which is worth 10x less, same applies for s6 which is 3 of a kind but is extremely similar to hk416 and morano thompson). it would be so dull seeing everyone using the same 3-4 guns (i.e. if you have 100k you're gonna use smgpk, if you have 200k ur gonna use s6, if u have 2mil ur gonna use mp5. many guns would be used by nobody and this would become extremely boring..the rarest guns would become the worst since nobody buys them and the remaining ones have been pawned

[bloodykiller]

[QUOTE=Supaman771;1628266]This should be simpler for you swift, I thought you were smart.
[*]The currently economy is too lopsided for this to fix anything, the rich players will yes... still be rich.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by bloodykiller

^Post

You, stop whining about a reset.
It is the only way the server can possibly be fixed from a economic standpoint.

It won't kill the player count, I'm sure a few might cry and quit... then I'm even surer some new kids would come try it out with a fair chance and some oldbies might hop back on.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Supaman771

You, stop whining about a reset.
It is the only way the server can possibly be fixed from a economic standpoint.

It won't kill the player count, I'm sure a few might cry and quit... then I'm even surer some new kids would come try it out with a fair chance and some oldbies might hop back on.

still crying cuz u got reset?