Spar Complex (iPhone)

[WillaWonka]

Whats the price of each gun, then base stats of that, so uzi shouldnt flawless a m4 if the person with the m4 has skills, etc.

[ftbinuyasha]

Originally Posted by WillaWonka

Whats the price of each gun, then base stats of that, so uzi shouldnt flawless a m4 if the person with the m4 has skills, etc.

I mean you need to strike a balance between the M4 and uzi. The M4 should have a fairer chance against the uzi by increasing the damage. There must be more benefit conferred to switching to a slower, more powerful weapon. It needs to be more powerful.

And then, maybe a medium between the uzi and M4. Maybe if the AK had some spread...

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by ftbinuyasha

more guns in the ecosystem.

LOLWHAT?

I don't get it... but when I first read this I was confused.

[ftbinuyasha]

Originally Posted by Supaman771

LOLWHAT?

I don't get it... but when I first read this I was confused.

lol it's a valid use of ecosystem.

The statement you made above did not make any sense lol. I'm sure I confused you as much as that statement confused me.

[salesman]

Originally Posted by ftbinuyasha

lol it's a valid use of ecosystem.

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

An ecosystem is a biological environment consisting of all the organisms living in a particular area, as well as all the nonliving, physical components of the environment with which the organisms interact, such as air, soil, water, and sunlight.

I think you meant economy?

[ftbinuyasha]

Originally Posted by salesman

I think you meant economy?

Economy would not have worked. Also, inb4 incoming inflation from the thousands of gralats from gralat packs.

Originally Posted by salesman

nonliving, physical components of the environment with which the organisms interact, such as air, soil, water, and sunlight.

An ecosystem doesn't have to necessarily be about animals/plants/etc. We could be talking about the player ecosystem. Player interaction with NPCs? Inter-player interactions. Ecosystem can be used like environment. Like your work environment.

We don't need to argue semantics, you knew what I meant in the end lol.

[Donark]

The removal of hit stun was great.
Uzi's shoudln't have NO freeze, no gun should.
M4 at 10 damage would be over powered, 5 hits and dead.
There should be NO gas allowed in spar -_-

Also can you fix the glitch where people are invisible in the spar and could hit you x.x

[ftbinuyasha]

Originally Posted by Donark

The removal of hit stun was great.
Uzi's shoudln't have NO freeze, no gun should.
M4 at 10 damage would be over powered, 5 hits and dead.
There should be NO gas allowed in spar -_-

Also can you fix the glitch where people are invisible in the spar and could hit you x.x

.05 freeze on uzis to match the mp5 (smgs stay with smgs). If we nerf the uzis, we just reduce it to the crap they were on the PC. They're useless.

m4 at 10 damage wouldn't be overpowered, most guns on PC are 20 damage vs a 100 HP pool. We would see quicker, more decisive spars. People would be more concerned about getting hit.

I think what makes 10 damage seem daunting is the small screen.

I second the gas notion, the gas lasts to the next spar also, quite annoying.

[Donark]

Originally Posted by ftbinuyasha

.m4 at 10 damage wouldn't be overpowered, most guns on PC are 20 damage vs a 100 HP pool.

Most people on PC have above 120 hp, making it over 6 hits. Also on PC bullets move slow enough (or we move fast enough, not sure) that we can dodge, so being hit 5 times on iphone is a LOT easier than being hit 5 times on the computer.

[Knux]

Is it even possible to spar on iPod Graal?

[ftbinuyasha]

Originally Posted by Knux

Is it even possible to spar on iPod Graal?

It's actually a lot easier with two control pads.

[skillmaster19]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

You dont get hurt till after the barrel explodes

Yes, but sometimes if you are lagging you cannot move till a few seconds AFTER the barrel explodes, and your enemy gets a few shots with uzis in and does 10-25 damage to you.

Also, shotguns work decently well in spar if you can dodge well, and spam bullets at a long distance. the only problem is if you are on an ipod, you cant see the whole sparring arena when sparring, the focus doesnt work. Please fix the focus while sparring like on classic.

I would also like to see support for Retina display so that the area you can see is much bigger on 4th generation devices so you can actually see bullets coming and dodge them.

[Knux]

Originally Posted by ftbinuyasha

It's actually a lot easier with two control pads.

I'd just much rather player on a keyboard than on a screen :P

[MattKan]

Originally Posted by skillmaster19

Yes, but sometimes if you are lagging you cannot move till a few seconds AFTER the barrel explodes, and your enemy gets a few shots with uzis in and does 10-25 damage to you.

Also, shotguns work decently well in spar if you can dodge well, and spam bullets at a long distance. the only problem is if you are on an ipod, you cant see the whole sparring arena when sparring, the focus doesnt work. Please fix the focus while sparring like on classic.

I would also like to see support for Retina display so that the area you can see is much bigger on 4th generation devices so you can actually see bullets coming and dodge them.

You should stop complaining about everything. The things on the server are very nicely done, and I know you like them since you play the server practically all the time, so stop complaining

[ftbinuyasha]

Originally Posted by Knux

I'd just much rather player on a keyboard than on a screen :P

Strafing is a lot easier lol. It feels like Era was meant for two control pads, I mean not having to toggle your strafe on any button is pretty damn convenient.

Now on classic, I don't like the touchscreen. I miss the keyboard. If I had like a gamepad controller like I knew a few people used, yeah I'd be fine with that.

[ftbinuyasha]

Originally Posted by skillmaster19

Yes, but sometimes if you are lagging you cannot move till a few seconds AFTER the barrel explodes, and your enemy gets a few shots with uzis in and does 10-25 damage to you.

Also, shotguns work decently well in spar if you can dodge well, and spam bullets at a long distance. the only problem is if you are on an ipod, you cant see the whole sparring arena when sparring, the focus doesnt work. Please fix the focus while sparring like on classic.

I would also like to see support for Retina display so that the area you can see is much bigger on 4th generation devices so you can actually see bullets coming and dodge them.

If you are playing shotgun on the outside against iPad players, there is a reason why you are not doing so well. Just close the distance and use uzi's or m4 from the inside.

Focus can't be scripted right because of the varying screen sizes.

I kind of second the Retina support. Just for the crispiness. Pixel art and crispiness. iPad will just have to have an advantage. Not that it matters.

[skillmaster19]

Originally Posted by MattKan

You should stop complaining about everything. The things on the server are very nicely done, and I know you like them since you play the server practically all the time, so stop complaining

I am not complaining, I am just asking that a few bugs be fixed and a few nice features be added. I asked for Stefam to hurry up with the sparring, and he said they would and they released it the next day. I agree the server is very nicely done with great scripters and artists, only thing that could be better is the hat prices, but thats Stefans way of making money and I honestly don't care about hats. The staff are great and they're doing everything in their power to make the server the best it can be.

[skillmaster19]

Originally Posted by ftbinuyasha

Focus can't be scripted right because of the varying screen sizes.

It has been done on classic with varying screen sizes but can't be done on era? I see some zoom feature with ipads was released, isnt that focus?

edit: double post, sorry

[MattKan]

Originally Posted by skillmaster19

It has been done on classic with varying screen sizes but can't be done on era? I see some zoom feature with ipads was released, isnt that focus?

edit: double post, sorry

It was on Era iPhone first, silly.

It's kinda cool, too, lol. When you do the zoom thing, your character is almost life size.

[skillmaster19]

Originally Posted by MattKan

It was on Era iPhone first, silly.

It's kinda cool, too, lol. When you do the zoom thing, your character is almost life size.

no, i mean the focus for sparring on classic was done months ago and it doesnt work on era.

[Herb_P2P]

i whip my hair back and forth

[DDynasty]

How about all of you stop *****ing and q.qing over a games gun stats, and just wait, damn.

[ftbinuyasha]

Originally Posted by DDynasty

How about all of you stop *****ing and q.qing over a games gun stats, and just wait, damn.

Rofl this guy.

Forums are for discussion. We SHOULD discuss stats and not just wait for things to happen. Balance is community based, not just numbers behind-the-scenes. There are obviously a few things that can be improved on and discussion never hurt anyone.

Do you talk to everyone like that in-game lol?

[DDynasty]

I dont play in game lmao, I rarely play at all so ya go away. And its not

[DDynasty]

I dont play in game lmao, I rarely play at all so ya go away. And its not discussion if people are just complaining about a game that needs advantages and disadvantages.

[MontyPython]

Originally Posted by DDynasty

How about all of you stop *****ing and q.qing over a games gun stats, and just wait, damn.

Yeah guys, balance is just a perk, not a necessity.

You've got your MS Paint palm tree art and seashell digging mini-game, what else do you really need?

Danny, I'll give you a quick pro-tip: The less you talk, the cooler you'll look to anyone who doesn't know you.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by DDynasty

It's not discussion if people are just complaining about a game that needs advantages and disadvantages.

It's a discussion if the topic is of issues of the game so...
You're wrong.
Also if you're a player relations acting all irritable about the game, it doesn't do well for your rep as a relations member.

[ftbinuyasha]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

It's a discussion if the topic is of issues of the game so...
You're wrong.
Also if you're a player relations acting all irritable about the game, it doesn't do well for your rep as a relations member.

#1 PR

Originally Posted by DDynasty

I dont play in game lmao, I rarely play at all so ya go away. And its not discussion if people are just complaining about a game that needs advantages and disadvantages.

#1 PR

We were clearly talking about the advantages and disadvantages lol. You don't -NEED- advantages and disadvantages in the way you're talking about it. They are inherently in the game. We are having a balance discussion, we are trying to -BALANCE- the advantages and disadvantages.

Did we just get trolled by the PR?

[DDynasty]

I don't troll anything, so q.q more and monty your mad cause you don't like me, cool. But all im saying is the guns don't need to be changed, and the fact im a PR didn't mean anything I still have my opinion, just because you kids obsess over graal isnt my problem.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by DDynasty

I don't troll anything, so q.q more and monty your mad cause you don't like me, cool. But all im saying is the guns don't need to be changed, and the fact im a PR didn't mean anything I still have my opinion, just because you kids obsess over graal isnt my problem.

I'm curious sir, why do you seem eager to attack back at players? It's rather unprofessional which I'd hope for someone who doesn't try to stress on his ability could easily maintain a professional attitude, You actually make me want to not play Era iPhone because of such. Your opinion is more appreciated and more understandable by the others when you don't put an extremely negative wording to it. If you really don't troll then you of course won't mind answering my question without any sarcasm correct?

[FrozenLies0]

o.o calm down people calm down

anyhews
era iphone only has 4 guns so far:
uzis (imo the best)
have 0 freeze, stefan doesn't want them to have freeze but lowest dmg
m4 = the strongest dmg but has the firerate of an ak i believe
ak = decent
hg = decent (worst one imo)
andy fixed the lil freeze thing after you get hit

and a fyiiiiiiiiiiiii
that palm tree is down right hilarious, and no one seems to complain about it ;o
win4win

[MattKan]

Originally Posted by DDynasty

I don't troll anything, so q.q more and monty your mad cause you don't like me, cool. But all im saying is the guns don't need to be changed, and the fact im a PR didn't mean anything I still have my opinion, just because you kids obsess over graal isnt my problem.

Hey dude, I learned a few days ago that on the forums it is not right to continually post stupid posts when you are being an idiot.

So stop.

[ftbinuyasha]

Originally Posted by FrozenLies0

o.o calm down people calm down

anyhews
era iphone only has 4 guns so far:
uzis (imo the best)
have 0 freeze, stefan doesn't want them to have freeze but lowest dmg
m4 = the strongest dmg but has the firerate of an ak i believe
ak = decent
hg = decent (worst one imo)
andy fixed the lil freeze thing after you get hit

and a fyiiiiiiiiiiiii
that palm tree is down right hilarious, and no one seems to complain about it ;o
win4win

I agree with this. We need to have a medium between uzis and m4. Once we have a few more guns, things will be easier to balance. You missed shotguns by the way lol.

But anyways, MS paint is the preferred client for a lot of pixel artists. The palm tree is #1 palm tree.

Originally Posted by DDynasty

I don't troll anything, so q.q more and monty your mad cause you don't like me, cool. But all im saying is the guns don't need to be changed, and the fact im a PR didn't mean anything I still have my opinion, just because you kids obsess over graal isnt my problem.

Listen, you're being a tool and we would appreciate you not bring negativity to this thread. If you "rarely play at all", your opinion carries little weight. Especially since you've been insulting everyone right off the bat. Don't act high and mighty and half-ass your grammar, no one is taking you seriously.

[FrozenLies0]

oh yeah shotguns XD 5
actually ok so let me correct myself
i believe it goes
shotgun = strongest, most freeze/lowest firerate
m4=2nd strongest, freeze of ak
ak=3rd strongest
handgun=4th strongest, but more freeze than ak
uzis=5th strongest,but 0 freeze/fastest firerate

[WillaWonka]

Handguns: 4dmg no freeze
Ak47: 7dmg high fire rate automatic
Uzi: 5dmg high spread fire rate lame no freeze wooohooo
M4: 8dmg semi auto slightly less rate of fire than ak47
Shotgun: ?dmg with large radius shooting **** yo

Cha imo uzi is overpowered for only 1.3k dual

[skillmaster19]

Originally Posted by WillaWonka

Handguns: 4dmg no freeze
Ak47: 7dmg high fire rate automatic
Uzi: 5dmg high spread fire rate lame no freeze wooohooo
M4: 8dmg semi auto slightly less rate of fire than ak47
Shotgun: ?dmg with large radius shooting **** yo

Cha imo uzi is overpowered for only 1.3k dual

It seems the iPhone server is less about working fo hours to get the best gun and dominate with it, and more of get a decent gun, and youll be fine, and you can choose from a variety of good weapons that are cheap. Still though, can't wait to see more guns keep up the good work!

[Fulg0reSama]

We need more flak cannons.

[WillaWonka]

Originally Posted by skillmaster19

It seems the iPhone server is less about working fo hours to get the best gun and dominate with it, and more of get a decent gun, and youll be fine, and you can choose from a variety of good weapons that are cheap. Still though, can't wait to see more guns keep up the good work!

Though its standard that someone would pay more for a better weapon then less for a better weapon. I mean yes everyone would want this but it isnt really the best way to efficently use an economy to its fullest.