Ideas & Feedback

Codein · #1 01-16-2011, 03:33 AM

We need some ideas and feedback. I definitely wouldn't object to hearing you out.

Beowolf · #2 01-16-2011, 06:03 PM

Hey...I noticed that what make the game unfair, is the role of jetpack Why?...
Well, When a new player or a trial try to play this game -i mean that he can't get stuffs from gelat shop- he may will notice that there is a big distance betweeen a gold person and a trial (poor-greedy) : much power.And here come the role of jetpack:this stuff make the person in a certain way invincible, exemple :When the trial is in the way to kill a gold with jetpack this one will automaticaly take the jet a run away with rolling of him

xD, then the gold person will come back to kill the trial with 30-50hp after he healed himself without fear in a safe place not so far.
Finally i just want you with my respect to take some decision about this stuff maybe you can change him from gelat shop to the trader or delete him ( not sure ) or decrease his price.

I would like to give more arguments but it seems that i haven't much time because i'm in a cybercafe...

fowlplay4 · #3 01-16-2011, 06:21 PM

Strip the game back down it's core again.

Change the gelat shop for purely aesthetics.

Get rid of that annoying 'intro' to the map when you enter it.

Crono · #4 01-16-2011, 06:58 PM

Nothing wrong with jetpack.

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Strip the game back down it's core again.

Change the gelat shop for purely aesthetics.

Get rid of that annoying 'intro' to the map when you enter it.

Pretty much this.

Feonix · #5 01-17-2011, 01:01 AM

Bring cookies back to shop, or make it so that ET's can host off more than just 1 cookie (/giveitem dosen't allow you to add more than 1 cookie to a player). As somebody who is still trying to gain a cookie medal, I'd say that it's pretty hard considering the only time cookies are ever out is during Christmas, and you can only get them from Santa. Which is pretty lame because you have to know all the different colors of the present boxes, and know what items are in each present.

Might also wan't to consider not adding so many rare weapons to the PP prize list. Like Bluepistoles...I always thought they were supposed to be hosted off in events, and the most skilled players earn them. Not handed out like candy....

edit: cus how the hell do I eat 100 cookies in the 2 weeks that Santa is here, like my third year at this attempt.

Soala · #6 01-17-2011, 02:03 AM

You already heard about my ideas for Zone, but here they are:

1) Make a new map being the main dropship and holding warps to all other planets. The space interface just sucks at the moment.
This main dropship would hold all sorts of places to idle, chat, get informed on news and events and more (statistics, ranking, etc..)

2) I've seen spaceships landed in dropships. Those sprites should just be completed and become a new way to travel between planets, fight and being used in events.

3) Zone holds a nice gameplay enough to implement crazy things. Everything could be really interesting if there were original events, like:
-Mech Races, with multiple game modes (CTF, etc..)
-Space battles, using the spaceships. Random events occuring like black holes, meteors and such.
-Space Races, you get the idea.

There are so many cool things Zone could develop, just make a vote to see who likes what, then get to work!

Bline_spoted · #7 01-17-2011, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Soala

You already heard about my ideas for Zone, but here they are:

1) Make a new map being the main dropship and holding warps to all other planets. The space interface just sucks at the moment.
This main dropship would hold all sorts of places to idle, chat, get informed on news and events and more (statistics, ranking, etc..)

2) I've seen spaceships landed in dropships. Those sprites should just be completed and become a new way to travel between planets, fight and being used in events.

3) Zone holds a nice gameplay enough to implement crazy things. Everything could be really interesting if there were original events, like:
-Mech Races, with multiple game modes (CTF, etc..)
-Space battles, using the spaceships. Random events occuring like black holes, meteors and such.
-Space Races, you get the idea.

There are so many cool things Zone could develop, just make a vote to see who likes what, then get to work!

I had that idea too space battle would be neat and fun with spaceships fighting and such and if you need a black hole, i already posted one in gfx submission forums in my thread i think it would be a great idea!

Codein · #8 01-17-2011, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Feonix

Bring cookies back to shop, or make it so that ET's can host off more than just 1 cookie (/giveitem dosen't allow you to add more than 1 cookie to a player). As somebody who is still trying to gain a cookie medal, I'd say that it's pretty hard considering the only time cookies are ever out is during Christmas, and you can only get them from Santa. Which is pretty lame because you have to know all the different colors of the present boxes, and know what items are in each present.

Might also wan't to consider not adding so many rare weapons to the PP prize list. Like Bluepistoles...I always thought they were supposed to be hosted off in events, and the most skilled players earn them. Not handed out like candy....

edit: cus how the hell do I eat 100 cookies in the 2 weeks that Santa is here, like my third year at this attempt.

It's a form of candy you can only eat once and once only. You'll never experience it again, unless you use a different account. I want people to feel what it's like to have those weapons, to use them and then feel what it's like to not have them afterwards. Maybe they won't care, but maybe they'll love them so much they need them again and will keep getting better to win the events to get them.

Shadow5596321 · #9 01-17-2011, 03:03 AM

RPS 3 months isn't giving them a taste, it's giving them 3 event wins of it.

Codein · #10 01-17-2011, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321

RPS 3 months isn't giving them a taste, it's giving them 3 event wins of it.

Oh, I'm terribly sorry that you do not approve.

seanthien · #11 01-17-2011, 07:23 PM

I like how you're trying to give players a taste of something they may never get. The bps is fine, however, the 3 months for rps is a bit extreme. I understand that's 3.5k points, but more advanced players can farm that and get them within a few days, and 3 months is far too long. Especially for a taste of something. It should be 1 month, max.

This is essentially what Shadow5596321 meant, so don't take much of it to heart.

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Hey...I noticed that what make the game unfair, is the role of jetpack Why?...
Well, When a new player or a trial try to play this game -i mean that he can't get stuffs from gelat shop- he may will notice that there is a big distance betweeen a gold person and a trial (poor-greedy) : much power.And here come the role of jetpack:this stuff make the person in a certain way invincible, exemple :When the trial is in the way to kill a gold with jetpack this one will automaticaly take the jet a run away with rolling of him

xD, then the gold person will come back to kill the trial with 30-50hp after he healed himself without fear in a safe place not so far.

I'd like to bring this guys idea up to topic. I think what he's saying is completely true. Newer players have a very distinct disadvantage on iricia (the nearly only played planet), and what we don't want is newer players getting dominated and quitting.

I'm not saying jetpack should be removed, or jetpack should be added to gold. I'm saying there should be a newbie friendly environment. Doesn't matter what the current players' think, they'll come back and play if they see a playercount rising.

StormYs · #12 01-18-2011, 12:35 PM

Anyways, I think that the jetpack is way overpowered. The ability to fly that long in the air is insane thus giving you a lot of benefits.

I think that the jetpack should only keep you in the air for a few seconds (make it drain more energy), and there should be a cooldown before you can re use the jetpack again instead of just having enough of energy.

seanthien · #13 01-18-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by StormYs

Anger Management.

Anyways, I think that the jetpack is way overpowered. The ability to fly that long in the air is insane thus giving you a lot of benefits.

I think that the jetpack should only keep you in the air for a few seconds (make it drain more energy), and there should be a cooldown before you can re use the jetpack again instead of just having enough of energy.

Add in a 1.5 second warm-up timer and I think we're good

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Pimmeh · #14 01-19-2011, 04:59 PM

Idea, experience! Something to show your worth outside of the top10 rankings or whatever. Devotion should have some reward aside skill.

RevolutionJS · #15 01-20-2011, 05:17 PM

My Idea is Peacefull coextistention. Lets all be friends and play happily toghether!

MagikMasterMind · #16 01-20-2011, 06:36 PM

Feedback... I like how development has been going so far, so I can't say anything more than keeping it up like it is right now, for once, Zone is been taken care of... I like the idea of small updates one at a time instead of 1 big update per year that might flop

And now, for the Suggestions...That's some projects/ideas I would like to see

- Predator event -
Invisible spar bots on deathmatch, last man standing wins(or many other ideas can come out of this effect)
It could also be a deathmatch where everyone is invisible and only appears on radar

- Team Spar -
2 vs 2 spars or 3 vs 3

- Maybe make alternate maps for iricia-
could make the game interesting, maybe some with just 2 big bases, making huge wars to hold the two bases or something like that. We could make it change every 3 games or so

- Nerf jetpack -
Like many players said, jetpack is overpowered and needs a nerf

- Achievements with upgrades -
*get 100kills with this weapon, spend skill point for a longer range, bigger clip or such, in other words, have your own custom weapon!* You get it

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Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

My Idea is Peacefull coextistention. Lets all be friends and play happily toghether!

This is not going to happen, you are banned my friend

StormYs · #17 01-20-2011, 10:20 PM

On another note: it would be nice having a rotating map system on iricia, i mean we've been seeing the same iricia since zone went gold.

By a rotating map system I mean that every few hours a new iricia map will be replacing iricia's current map temporarily. This new iricia map (with the 5 bases being somewhere else or crap) and the old iricia map can switch each other every now and then.

This will be giving us old players a new map to explore while being known with the objectives to win the game.

seanthien · #18 01-21-2011, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by StormYs

On another note: it would be nice having a rotating map system on iricia, i mean we've been seeing the same iricia since zone went gold.

By a rotating map system I mean that every few hours a new iricia map will be replacing iricia's current map temporarily. This new iricia map (with the 5 bases being somewhere else or crap) and the old iricia map can switch each other every now and then.

This will be giving us old players a new map to explore while being known with the objectives to win the game.

I suggested with John a pure PK-map. I think it was a layout similar to Zone Wars, except minus the speeders, mechs, bikes, and no jetpack.

Shadow5596321 · #19 01-21-2011, 06:10 AM

It was a Zone Wars+Blood Gulch from Halo map.

Feonix · #20 01-21-2011, 07:04 AM

Hmmm, Zwars is pretty epic if you get an ET or somebody to freeze the vehicles. Adds more competition to it. Especially since it's totally unfair how Darkside starts off with 1 mech, while Lightside gets 4 bikes and 2 speeders.

Deas_Voice · #21 01-21-2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Feonix

Hmmm, Zwars is pretty epic if you get an ET or somebody to freeze the vehicles. Adds more competition to it. Especially since it's totally unfair how Darkside starts off with 1 mech, while Lightside gets 4 bikes and 2 speeders.

i'd totally add back more mechs, i'm going to ask cod.... ohwait

sandroviet0 · #22 01-24-2011, 05:16 PM

maybe you could try to make a planet point shop to spend you points, because when you reach the 3.5k points you cant do something with it. so maybe you could make a shop with rewards, and change the rewards once each month.

Feonix · #23 01-24-2011, 06:13 PM

Since Codein already left, who's the one accepting this feedback? Or is this thread as dead as Zone now

Deas_Voice · #24 01-24-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sandroviet0

maybe you could try to make a planet point shop to spend you points, because when you reach the 3.5k points you cant do something with it. so maybe you could make a shop with rewards, and change the rewards once each month.

i believe that codein's original idea with planet points was to have a shop that you bought items from it, as he did talk about making a shop before he made the system.

anyhow, if Zone get's a manager who is willing to change this system into a shop based one, it shouldnt be too hard to make happen.

Feonix · #25 01-24-2011, 09:02 PM

no unfinished weapons next time please

MagikMasterMind · #26 01-25-2011, 12:47 AM

The right to post bugs on these forums and know what's going on without having to forum PM; We want to know what other players think about it afterall.

avengis · #27 01-25-2011, 07:36 PM

i believe im a graal player and i speak as a voice for many graal players who do not, if we did not raise these issues they would not be adressed, but to say tis is trolling is just plain ignorant, the only way to get something done is to show that there is an issue, and how do you show there is an issue, using your right to put these messages across, so to those "one track mind" people open your eyes and stop holding development back because you cannot bare to hear someone complain, thanks x

Shadow5596321 · #28 01-25-2011, 10:27 PM

lol u mad broski? seems lke ur mad lke nubs lololol

MagikMasterMind · #29 01-26-2011, 01:25 AM

So yeah, is anyone going to fix Zone?
You can't play any team planet, so instead of watching it being dead, fix please?

If you can't give the effort to fix this, why don't you just simply close the damn server instead of holding it up there while you can't play over the half of the games the server has to offer.

And don't you dare erase this post like you erased my thread about this. We want anwsers and support, we didn't get any of those yet.

fowlplay4 · #30 01-26-2011, 01:48 AM

It's going to take a serious change in moderation to fix Zone.

Feonix · #31 01-26-2011, 03:43 AM

ooola 4 manager

seanthien · #32 01-26-2011, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

It's going to take a serious change in moderation to fix Zone.

I offer my assistance if development is taking place!

It's 'bout time Zone just died. No players, no forum activity. That's what has to happen.
SEE YOU GUYS 'ROUND TOWN.

Fulg0reSama · #33 01-26-2011, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by seanthien

I offer my assistance if development is taking place!

It's 'bout time Zone just died. No players, no forum activity. That's what has to happen.
SEE YOU GUYS 'ROUND TOWN.

Oh, so much for my trolololing then? Good to see you're giving my view on it a possibility then.

fowlplay4 · #34 01-26-2011, 04:43 AM

The problem is that the owners of Zone don't moderate it and the ones left in charge are terrible at it and make poor decisions.

seanthien · #35 01-26-2011, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Oh, so much for my trolololing then? Good to see you're giving my view on it a possibility then.

The situation changed dramatically from then, and now. Zone had hope a week ago with a rising player count. Now without a manager, it seems futile to even try to recoup any efforts.

Even if Zone does get a new manager, unless he's highly dedicated and showed potential similar to Codein's, I don't find it going anywhere.

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

The problem is that the owners of Zone don't moderate it and the ones left in charge are terrible at it and make poor decisions.

It's just at a non-profitable status right now. With the rising of the Iphone apps, I don't see why they would try to bring back a "gold" server either.

Done deal! We'll schedule a funeral ceremony in a few months from now..

RevolutionJS · #36 01-26-2011, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by seanthien

The situation changed dramatically from then, and now. Zone had hope a week ago with a rising player count. Now without a manager, it seems futile to even try to recoup any efforts.

Done deal! We'll schedule a funeral ceremony in a few months from now..

Zone dies because dutchies quit. Im serious

ReptarKingOfTheOZone · #37 01-26-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

Zone dies because dutchies quit. Im serious

get over yourself. zone died the day after codein quit, before the dutchies quit. and it was alive before the dutchies came back.

Feonix · #38 01-26-2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

Zone dies because dutchies quit. Im serious

Go **** yourself. Im serious

fowlplay4 · #39 01-26-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by seanthien

It's just at a non-profitable status right now. With the rising of the Iphone apps, I don't see why they would try to bring back a "gold" server either.

Done deal! We'll schedule a funeral ceremony in a few months from now..

You just don't get it or the underlying point I'm trying to make.

Fulg0reSama · #40 01-26-2011, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by seanthien

-obvious snip-
Even if Zone does get a new manager, unless he's highly dedicated and showed potential similar to Codein's, I don't find it going anywhere.

You mean ANYONE WHO CARES EVEN THE SLIGHTEST WITH SCRIPTING ABILITY?

yeah.. Unlikely. Glad to see you've opened your eyes to the obvious though without anyone smart.

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

You just don't get it or the underlying point I'm trying to make.

He couldn't get a point If it poked him in the ass.