Before I go to bed

[DustyPorViva]

I've heard from some people that the "what you upload is ours for whatever we please" holds no legal ground.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I've heard from some people that the "what you upload is ours for whatever we please" holds no legal ground.

Especially when you're uploading it to the forums and not to Graals ftp servers.

[Elk]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I've heard from some people that the "what you upload is ours for whatever we please" holds no legal ground.

I think the ToS of Graal are outdated...I wish it was like you're saying

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Elk

I think the ToS of Graal are outdated...I wish it was like you're saying

If it isn't here: http://www.graalonline.com/docs/agreement then it doesn't apply. They can't just say "Oh well we changed the ToS, and didn't tell anyone, and in fact didn't even have it obtainable!"

Not to mention ToS does not give companies the right to do whatever the hell they want. There are quite a few court decisions that have overruled ToS'.

[Elk]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

If it isn't here: http://www.graalonline.com/docs/agreement then it doesn't apply. They can't just say "Oh well we changed the ToS, and didn't tell anyone, and in fact didn't even have it obtainable!"

Not to mention ToS does not give companies the right to do whatever the hell they want. There are quite a few court decisions that have overruled ToS'.

User Information. Former Users. Users whose accounts have been terminated by any Graal Online administrator or LINUX Cyberjoueurs himself may not access the Graal Online system in any manner or for any reason without the express written permission of Cyberjoueur.

Loophole... there is no "Cyberjoueur" so you can ban-evade.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Elk

Loophole... there is no "Cyberjoueur" so you can ban-evade.

Careful, They may suddenly email and make a Change to their stuff and be like *lolban*

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

For graal it's simply If it's not copyrighted then it's ours. They don't have the professional dignity to give a damn.

Everything you make is copyrighted by default. You don't have to "register" personal copyrights.

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I've heard from some people that the "what you upload is ours for whatever we please" holds no legal ground.

Someone told me they removed that from the ToS. I haven't been able to find it, either (edit: didn't see your later post)

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I've heard from some people that the "what you upload is ours for whatever we please" holds no legal ground.

I would rather have it that way (i.e. uploading a thing for use on a playerworld gives Graal a license to use it however they please) then have a ****fest every time someone loses interest and goes around demanding all their stuff is taken offline.

I mean it might not have legal weight but it is not like anyone is going to bring it to court anyway and I would rather just keep telling people to shut up about their dumb copyrights.