How long

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

We don't have the right to do so. As customers we should have researched what kind of a game it would be a before we bought it, the game never advertised that there was going to be updates so I don't know why people think there should be. You could assume there would be, but thats just because of prior knowledge of other games and its not good to assume. You can always come up with ideas on how to improve the game but thats up to the "administration" to follow or not-follow your suggestions. I don't see how you can complain when you should have known the game was going to be like this.

Man, it's like you disappeared to learn how to type, but came back just as dumb as you were before. This is the most backwards logic ever.

"you can't say the game is bad because you should've known it was bad preemptively, leave if you don't like it??"

No. And we're not talking about Graal as a whole here (or you'd be even more stupid in this scenario), just UN. This is a server run by players. You know, like every server. And because it's managed by our peers, we have even more reason to complain. Because we may be able to do it better. We may be able to offer better development, better ideas, better directions for it go in. Instead, we get "okay have some hats and GPs". UN is dropping the ball, and it's up to other people to point that out, or else the server will continue to decline.

If people play UN and don't like the updates, they can complain. They invested time into the server. The server only exists because people log on; if it didn't have any players, it would eventually leave. It's not like the player means nothing to the server - the players are the lifeblood of it. Every server's management should be bending over backwards to meet the players' demands. This isn't a "well UN's not doing it like that" kind of thing. This is the sort of logic that should apply to every place, company, group: meet the demands of the people you work for. Because in the end, they work for Graal, and because they're glorified players, they work for the rest of the players.

Players aren't doing it wrong by complaining, the server is doing it wrong by giving them a reason to.

And you're doing it wrong by pretending you have any idea what's going on.

And your reply to Mark Sir Link is laced with hypocrisy, as you imply it's all of Graal suffering from these things, yet here you are.

[Unkownsoldier]

Originally Posted by kia345

Man, it's like you disappeared to learn how to type, but came back just as dumb as you were before. This is the most backwards logic ever.

"you can't say the game is bad because you should've known it was bad preemptively, leave if you don't like it??"

No. And we're not talking about Graal as a whole here (or you'd be even more stupid in this scenario), just UN. This is a server run by players. You know, like every server. And because it's managed by our peers, we have even more reason to complain. Because we may be able to do it better. We may be able to offer better development, better ideas, better directions for it go in. Instead, we get "okay have some hats and GPs". UN is dropping the ball, and it's up to other people to point that out, or else the server will continue to decline.

If people play UN and don't like the updates, they can complain. They invested time into the server. The server only exists because people log on; if it didn't have any players, it would eventually leave. It's not like the player means nothing to the server - the players are the lifeblood of it. Every server's management should be bending over backwards to meet the players' demands. This isn't a "well UN's not doing it like that" kind of thing. This is the sort of logic that should apply to every place, company, group: meet the demands of the people you work for. Because in the end, they work for Graal, and because they're glorified players, they work for the rest of the players.

Players aren't doing it wrong by complaining, the server is doing it wrong by giving them a reason to.

And you're doing it wrong by pretending you have any idea what's going on.

And your reply to Mark Sir Link is laced with hypocrisy, as you imply it's all of Graal suffering from these things, yet here you are.

I might have said "you can't complain" before, which is my bad. What I meant was if you complain it wont change anything really. This has to be the 100th thread that has complaints riddled all throughout it, yet if you have noticed nothing has changed in years. Players have complained for years and suggestions have gone un-used.

I am here because I like to play events and spar. I couldn't care less if everything else about the game was gone. That's why I'M here.