We have the iPhone players...Let's get them here.

MattKan · #1 10-14-2010, 11:49 PM

So, we need to figure out ways to get new players to Graal (and iPhone is not what I mean by 'Graal'.) There are lots of players on iPhone who could and would play Graal PC if it was introduced positively to them. I'm thinking we should have a way to make it so if you first log into Graal, you can click something that says "coming from iPhone." This could be a community full of iPhone players playing on PC, and they can learn things about Graal PC, such as basic tutorial things, and information about the Hosted/Classic/Gold servers. And no offense to the Graal PC players, but some of you oldies literally scare the iPhone players away.

If we got the iPhone population to be introduced to Graal PC and give them a positive image, it would be very good.

But how could we get players from other places online? It's not exactly easy to find Graal. There's no advertisements or anything anywhere. We should figure out a way to get Graal known to the internet world, and get people to check it out. (I know this has been said before..Observer Mode must go!)

Graal is evidently losing interest; We need to bring more people in, and get old people back, especially since Stefan doesn't seem to keen to do anything about it.

DustyPorViva · #2 10-14-2010, 11:50 PM

Payment method needs a serious revamping before that can be done. Right now Graal is not worth even lower subscription prices. Stefan is apparently planning to convert all the PC servers over to the cash-shop method iPhone Classic uses.

Soala · #3 10-14-2010, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Payment method needs a serious revamping before that can be done. Right now Graal is not worth even lower subscription prices. Stefan is apparently planning to convert all the PC servers over to the cash-shop method iPhone Classic uses.

This would Be really worth it IMO, but shouldn't be abused to give some players a certain advantage ingame.
I will myself try to setup such cash-shop for Ruins, mainly for clothes and a few items/weapons looks.
I also thought of making "expansion packs" for Ruins people could buy, only for additional storyline purposes, just to offer a little bit more playable content, but only on existing worlds and such (which means no additional restricted island or anything).

MattKan · #4 10-15-2010, 01:45 AM

I've always found the idea of "buying a subscription" much more appealing than "getting on for free, and paying for individual things." Especially on Graal; If Stefan converted this to the thing Dusty said, then what would be available to buy for it? Would it be on every server? Would classic servers be forced to disfunction certain things, and make them for sale? That would cause problems..

DustyPorViva · #5 10-15-2010, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MattKan

I've always found the idea of "buying a subscription" much more appealing than "getting on for free, and paying for individual things." Especially on Graal; If Stefan converted this to the thing Dusty said, then what would be available to buy for it? Would it be on every server? Would classic servers be forced to disfunction certain things, and make them for sale? That would cause problems..

Zodiac, GK and Zone already use the cash-shop model. It's much better than letting players try Graal out using the god-awful observer mode, and ghost mode before that. It'll also allow more casual players to enjoy the game while the more persistent/dedicated players can put their money towards keeping it free for the others.

MattKan · #6 10-15-2010, 01:56 AM

Stefan should buy facebook ads.

xXziroXx · #7 10-15-2010, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MattKan

Stefan should buy facebook ads.

That's actually not a bad idea at all. From the look of things Stefan has made his way slowly but surely onto Facebook, along with countless of custom made accounts for Graal aliases (I still lol at the very idea of it).

kia345 · #8 10-15-2010, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Zodiac, GK and Zone already use the cash-shop model. It's much better than letting players try Graal out using the god-awful observer mode, and ghost mode before that. It'll also allow more casual players to enjoy the game while the more persistent/dedicated players can put their money towards keeping it free for the others.

Cash-shops on grinding games are terrible, and anyone who disagrees is a terrible person by extension

fowlplay4 · #9 10-15-2010, 04:08 AM

You know whats cool? A billion dollars.

Bubble13 · #10 10-15-2010, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MattKan

So, we need to figure out ways to get new players to Graal (and iPhone is not what I mean by 'Graal'.) There are lots of players on iPhone who could and would play Graal PC if it was introduced positively to them. I'm thinking we should have a way to make it so if you first log into Graal, you can click something that says "coming from iPhone." This could be a community full of iPhone players playing on PC, and they can learn things about Graal PC, such as basic tutorial things, and information about the Hosted/Classic/Gold servers. And no offense to the Graal PC players, but some of you oldies literally scare the iPhone players away.

If we got the iPhone population to be introduced to Graal PC and give them a positive image, it would be very good.

But how could we get players from other places online? It's not exactly easy to find Graal. There's no advertisements or anything anywhere. We should figure out a way to get Graal known to the internet world, and get people to check it out. (I know this has been said before..Observer Mode must go!)

Graal is evidently losing interest; We need to bring more people in, and get old people back, especially since Stefan doesn't seem to keen to do anything about it.

This happens to be a very good idea, but it's like you said: there's no way to introduce much more players to Graal. Also, most iPhone players probably think Graal is crazy complicated. I certainly thought that.

kia345 · #11 10-15-2010, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

You know whats cool? A billion dollars.

You know what's cooler? Ten-billion dollars, a gigantic fanbase, people paying you to advertise them and begging you for a plug. People signing movie deals. That's way cooler.

Luda · #12 10-15-2010, 09:46 AM

Paying anything to play this game is ridiculous.

HirakoShinji · #13 10-15-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Luda

Paying anything to play this game is ridiculous.

I agree.

Crono · #14 10-15-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Luda

Paying anything to play this game is ridiculous.

I don't mind paying a one time fee like normal games but paying monthly etc for Graal? What are they thinking?

Bubble13 · #15 10-15-2010, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Luda

Paying anything to play this game is ridiculous.

Paying certainly is retarded, especially at the price they charge. They should either offer the subscription free or at a one time charge and only charge for extras like cards and things.

fowlplay4 · #16 10-15-2010, 05:56 PM

Beating dead horses itt.

HirakoShinji · #17 10-15-2010, 06:04 PM

Ugggh, you're cool and all fowlplay4, but you're a bit random.

fowlplay4 · #18 10-15-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HirakoShinji

Ugggh, you're cool and all fowlplay4, but you're a bit random.

I'm glad I could make you feel that way about the nature of my posts, may baby Jesus bless your soul.

Crono · #19 10-15-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HirakoShinji

Ugggh, you're cool and all fowlplay4, but you're a bit random.

not random at all

HirakoShinji · #20 10-15-2010, 06:08 PM

Whatever Crono.

Don't be on my *** about everything. ):

Crono · #21 10-15-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HirakoShinji

Whatever Crono.

Don't be on my *** about everything. ):

then dont be wrong.

HirakoShinji · #22 10-15-2010, 06:10 PM

Fine.

Crono · #23 10-15-2010, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HirakoShinji

Fine.

Ok.

fowlplay4 · #24 10-15-2010, 06:24 PM

Yeah.

kia345 · #25 10-15-2010, 06:31 PM

Uh-huh.

HirakoShinji · #26 10-15-2010, 06:32 PM

qw3rt · #27 10-15-2010, 08:58 PM

A lot of iPhone players prefer to use their devices cause they can play everywhere and we re approximatively 1000 on the server why change?

MattKan · #28 10-15-2010, 10:52 PM

Ok, instead of playing Graal, let's rob some banks to get 2 billion dollars.

MattKan · #29 10-15-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by qw3rt

A lot of iPhone players prefer to use their devices cause they can play everywhere and we re approximatively 1000 on the server why change?

If we could play Classic iPhone using the PC and have more things to do on that server, things would be different.

HirakoShinji · #30 10-15-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MattKan

Ok, instead of playing Graal, let's rob some banks to get 2 billion dollars.

Oh gorsh Matt.
We should.
Where should we hit up first?

Admins · #31 10-16-2010, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

That's actually not a bad idea at all. From the look of things Stefan has made his way slowly but surely onto Facebook, along with countless of custom made accounts for Graal aliases (I still lol at the very idea of it).

More than 700 people have already posted screenshots, characters or messages from Classic iPhone

MattKan · #32 10-16-2010, 03:30 AM

Tip: Post a link to these forums on a facebook post. That should get a few people here and hopefully make them end up buying gold....Maybe

HirakoShinji · #33 10-16-2010, 08:55 AM

Suggestion for Stefan, make a seperate Graal client for Facebook.
Or rather, make a facebook app.

xXziroXx · #34 10-16-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

More than 700 people have already posted screenshots, characters or messages from Classic iPhone

All that's left is for you to properly utilize those people for marketing purposes.

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Originally Posted by HirakoShinji

Suggestion for Stefan, make a seperate Graal client for Facebook.
Or rather, make a facebook app.

There is one already, but last I checked it points to a blank page instead of graalonline.com like it's supposed too.

Admins · #35 10-16-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

There is one already, but last I checked it points to a blank page instead of graalonline.com like it's supposed too.

It's linking to the downloads of PC Graal and the iPhone version. We plan to display the plugin there which is currently only working on Internet Explorer though.

Crono · #36 10-16-2010, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

It's linking to the downloads of PC Graal and the iPhone version. We plan to display the plugin there which is currently only working on Internet Explorer though.

eww internet explorer

HirakoShinji · #37 10-16-2010, 05:52 PM

I put a gun to my head everytime I think of internet explorer.
Firefox ftw.

Switch · #38 10-16-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MattKan

Tip: Post a link to these forums on a facebook post. That should get a few people here and hopefully make them end up buying gold....Maybe

Or make the forums free like a ****ing normal game OOPS I'M SORRY DEVELOPMENT PLATFORM.

xXziroXx · #39 10-16-2010, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Switch

Or make the forums free like a ****ing normal game OOPS I'M SORRY DEVELOPMENT PLATFORM.

The forums are "free". Anyone that has every payed for anything on Graal can use them.

HirakoShinji · #40 10-16-2010, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

The forums are "free". Anyone that has ever payed for anything on Graal can use them.

Technically, you have to pay to talk on the forums.
You make an account, you pay for a subscription, you are able to be on forums.