Armageddon

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Criticism on a finished product is wasted effort, because it is finished... therefor no more changes will be made. Otherwise it is something that is not done, so criticism is best received then.

He means in a dev server. We haven't even presented the lv. He's actually ....


uhg ... I am going to try to stop this. Every single person in the world has their own views.

While we do WANT and NEED CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, we would appreciate it better if we were presenting the item to be criticisized. See what I mean? Whether it be you walking around on the server like we let Soala do to give constructive criticism on gfx, or looking at a screenshot of something we are presenting it is appreciated.

Please guys, Armageddon is a large thread of server updates and arguments. Can we please stop the arguments now? :/

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by sssssssssss

He means in a dev server. We haven't even presented the lv. He's actually ....

My point was that it's a waste of time to offer critique on a "finished product" which means his statement is pretty much opposite of true. That was my only point in what I said.

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

My point was that it's a waste of time to offer critique on a "finished product" which means his statement is pretty much opposite of true. That was my only point in what I said.

Guess we're technically agreeing then, my bad. xD

Our player house system is near complete. We have it where you can hover over furniture that is in your house, hit x to set it to move, then drag to where you want it to go. The class reads which furniture should be on walls and which shouldn't (for pictures and stuff).

Still to go is the actual system on handeling player houses inventory which includes taking furniture in and out of storage. Once this is done, I will add to the system the handeling of buying/renting/selling houses on the gmap, as well as keys to houses (which will be access to a house).

Should be done with this by the end of tomorrow.

I'm actually going to then move on to the movement system, and vamp it up a bit. Right now it is really, really basic. I'm going to hand the replace ganis more effeciently, and add rp style swords, drawing swords for regular hits, diving farther and farther under water ( I believe there are 3 different "levels" of how far you can go down), and then back up, climbing certain parts of cliffs, jumping over certain tiles, and little immediate "emoticons" like grabbing, pulling, ect.

All this should be done by Friday. We are almost done with the first town as well, including insides. Decus has been working his butt off on gfx and levels to make this happen by preview time. I am working on the main bar, instruments, and other little things like that when I get bored from the system scripts.

Deas is also working hard to finish up our main weapons, and polish them to fit our server. Look foward to those soon.

Our preview is in about 2 weeks. I don't think its an "official graal preview", but we will have, at the least, the first town open. You may not be able to do much more than jack around with stuff, but you'll at least be able to get out of OSL at that point so we can give you a style of our server.

[Decus_Arillias]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Criticism on a finished product is wasted effort, because it is finished... therefor no more changes will be made. Otherwise it is something that is not done, so criticism is best received then.

theres always room to improved finished things. Especially a level.

Id hate to go along with the criticism and when the guy criticising sees the single part of the level without seeing its surroundings and how it fits in really isnt a type of criticism id listen to. That goes for anyone wearing the same shoe.

[Decus_Arillias]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

My point was that it's a waste of time to offer critique on a "finished product" which means his statement is pretty much opposite of true. That was my only point in what I said.

everyone i know offers critique on finished products anyways, some will like it and some wont. I'd rather listen to feedback when the preview is over so we can make adjustments.

My statement is true when we're talking about 1 level out of 625. The finished product would be the server, not 1 half of a level.

maybe we're not on the same page. Dont know

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Decus_Arillias

theres always room to improved finished things. Especially a level.

Id hate to go along with the criticism and when the guy criticising sees the single part of the level without seeing its surroundings and how it fits in really isnt a type of criticism id listen to. That goes for anyone wearing the same shoe.

Then is it finished? Not really. It's best to get criticism as you work, that way you're not wasting time going back and redoing things you could have caught before hand.

[Hiro]

i think the point is that what is being showcased is just the average "serverness" to show that the server is approaching the point of release. the uniqueness of the server will show itself through the experience of the server, which we plan to tweak as a finished product. what is unknown is the pace of the server (in my feelings at least) and it can really only be determined well by having the finished server, followed by gameplay by guilds

though the interpretations differ, this should be a very flexible classic server that avoids and improves upon what has been grown to become the norm. i wouldn't let the attitudes in this thread take away from the nature or purpose of armageddon itself

[Luda]

[Decus_Arillias]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Then is it finished? Not really. It's best to get criticism as you work, that way you're not wasting time going back and redoing things you could have caught before hand.

i really dont think theres enough "level" to fix anything. Cant catch much when theres nothing really there. specially on a level such as the one posted.

i think the criticism is worth 1000X more when you see how each level comes together rather then looking at a level with barly anything on it. What i mean is solas criticism and others who have logged on. Thats why the preview will hopefully help us fix the things we're working on

[Precise]

Never have I ever seen so much negativity towards a server in development!

[Loakey_P2P]

most server's don't steal images from other servers to make their own server popular .

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Originally Posted by Loakey_P2P

most server's don't steal images from other servers to make their own server popular .

who the **** are you lol?
And off soooo fast after PMing me? No discussion on the server whatsoever (Rufus)? I'm not one on calling people trolls, but this is now an obvious troll. Rufus Pming me about all kinds of stuff, and some random account never seen before logs on the server and forums and says this? L-O-L.

[Loakey_P2P]

one of many people who know where your tiles and images came from . someone who didn't give you permission to use them . i find it funny you have rules to sign on your server yet you don't follow any rules your self's , least the ones about stealing stuff .

[Decus_Arillias]

the only thing thats stolen is a treetop that i even altered somewhat for a placeholder.
Thanks to Konidias and his tree guide im currently working on a very nice treetop that hasnt been finished yet. Appriciate your interest and welcome to Armageddons Thread.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Decus_Arillias

the only thing thats stolen is a treetop that i even altered somewhat for a placeholder.
Thanks to Konidias and his tree guide im currently working on a very nice treetop that hasnt been finished yet. Appriciate your interest and welcome to Armageddons Thread.

Why would you alter it if it was a place-holder? Also, why so many stolen place-holders? If it's just a place-holder, throw some crap together and use it instead. Stop using other peoples graphics... And I know of a lot of graphics that are stolen from someone I am on friendly terms with and he is not happy about it.