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Old 08-14-2010, 06:38 PM
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:47 PM
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Wait, how many account has Venom_Fish (Wil Soul) took control of?
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Old 08-14-2010, 06:48 PM
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Wait, how many account has Venom_Fish (Wil Soul) took control of?
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Old 08-14-2010, 07:05 PM
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Isn't GC still staff there? Therefore, I don't get what's all the talk about, GC can still contribute to the server and do whatever he planned on doing.
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Old 08-14-2010, 07:11 PM
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I don't get it?

Morgrim hired TheJames because Kinetaro said he could be hired. Now, Kinetaro has hired Elk (He's great, but doesn't Kinetaro do GFX anyway?As much as I like you Elk- you don't do much work apparantly)

I don't mind Morgrims choices, they make sense. Who else would run gangs other than Era's top player? (Will) Even if Morgrim is fired, why is Will fired? and not XTC


Give Era back to Salesman- he'd be amazing at it and I'm sure he's up for it.
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Old 08-14-2010, 07:14 PM
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Old 08-14-2010, 07:23 PM
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Now isn't the time for jokes!!!
He obviously doesn't want to be Manager again I wouldn't mind though.
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Old 08-14-2010, 07:25 PM
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Old 08-14-2010, 07:24 PM
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Uh oh! Looks like to me Chris Vimes wanted Geo to have a taste of getting knocked off the big time like he did when he was gone. You sly devil you.
I didn't have anything to do with this. Despite the fact that GC didn't hire any staff who weren't on the blacklist, I hesitantly supported him (he had very low self confidence and didn't seem to think he'd be able to do well as manager) and I wouldn't have wanted to see him fired. He was one of the candidates I originally considered to replace me.
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Old 08-14-2010, 07:26 PM
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GC didn't hire any staff who weren't on the blacklist
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I don't get it?

Morgrim hired TheJames because Kinetaro said he could be hired. Now, Kinetaro has hired Elk (He's great, but doesn't Kinetaro do GFX anyway?As much as I like you Elk- you don't do much work apparantly)

I don't mind Morgrims choices, they make sense. Who else would run gangs other than Era's top player? (Will) Even if Morgrim is fired, why is Will fired? and not XTC


Give Era back to Salesman- he'd be amazing at it and I'm sure he's up for it.
yes, bring us back salesman!!!!
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Old 08-14-2010, 07:28 PM
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:01 PM
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Everything could of been avoided if the globals simply sat down and talked about me about all this, but instead they decide to fire me in my sleep in less of a days worth of being Manager. I could of made a change in my management list even though I thought it was approved since I sent it prior to me getting Manager... I feel cheated, but again I wish Kinetaro the best though I don't think you are active or knowledgeable enough to run Era.
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You don't even give someone a chance because OMG WIL SOUL was hired. Really? Are we going to keep someone from being staff because he has a big ego?

Also, you couldn't even talk to Geo? You just took action without even talking to him? This is ****ing ridiculous.
You give Wil Soul too much credit. Wil Soul wasn't the reason why this happened. The fact of the matter is that basically the entire staff team consisted of abusers, hackers, and scammers. If it was only Wil Soul, then this wouldn't have happened. The fact of the matter is that it wasn't just Wil Soul, it was that, mixed in with the fact that several other poor choices were made to be hired. The entire global administration agreed that all of these choices were poor and were not in the best interest of Era.

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So you fired a manager, and blacklisted an entire qualified staff roster because you couldn't allow Wil to be staff (Won't go into detail as to why).

Lol @ Anti-Graal reasons. Covering up by claiming staff with absolutely no rights were abusive. And pulling the favoritism card at GC when he didn't even hire half the people.
We removed Morgrim for hiring several abusive friends who, almost all of which, had been globally banned in the past for doing such things as deleting content off of era and/or uploading item spawners or scamming.

That is simply a risk I don't believe any of us (the PWA) are willing to take.


There is really no argument that justifies hiring the amount of people with those kinds of recent histories, period.
In the end, I know all of Geovanni's friends are going to be upset and I know that any decision that is made cannot make everyone happy.
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:06 PM
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To put things into perspective...

PWAs threatened to remove me when I hired Sage. Just Sage. Imagine what they were thinking when they saw Sage and 5 other people who have done much worse than him.
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PWAs threatened to remove me when I hired Sage. Just Sage. Imagine what they were thinking when they saw Sage and 5 other people who have done much worse than him.
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Old 08-14-2010, 09:15 PM
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To put things into perspective...

PWAs threatened to remove me when I hired Sage. Just Sage. Imagine what they were thinking when they saw Sage and 5 other people who have done much worse than him.
Whoa, huh.. ? Why has my name been brought up multiple times in this thread, yet I haven't worked on Era for at least a 5-6 months?? o.O
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Old 08-14-2010, 09:35 PM
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:09 PM
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I spoke to Geovanni before making any final decisions.


You give Wil Soul too much credit. Wil Soul wasn't the reason why this happened. The fact of the matter is that basically the entire staff team consisted of abusers, hackers, and scammers. If it was only Wil Soul, then this wouldn't have happened. The fact of the matter is that it wasn't just Wil Soul, it was that, mixed in with the fact that several other poor choices were made to be hired.



I fired Morgrim for hiring his abusive friends who, almost all of which, had been globally banned in the past for doing such things as deleting content off of era and/or uploading item spawners.


That is simply a risk I don't believe any of us (the PWA) are willing to take.

Well that's not the full truth. The PWA got a staff roster from Geo, and they didn't have a problem with it. You know you could have spoken to Geo personally before acting on your own accord (all you told him was that he was fired). Also, Wil Soul doesn't have an abusive history as a staff member, it's just your own personal dislike of him which is why he is "blacklisted" from the staff team.... That and some stupid promise you made to someone.


Really good way to handle a situation as a PWA. I thought the PWA was much better than that.
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:18 PM
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Well that's not the full truth. The PWA got a staff roster from Geo, and they didn't have a problem with it. You know you could have spoken to Geo personally before acting on your own accord (all you told him was that he was fired). Also, Wil Soul doesn't have an abusive history as a staff member, it's just your own personal dislike of him which is why he is "blacklisted" from the staff team.... That and some stupid promise you made to someone.


Really good way to handle a situation as a PWA. I thought the PWA was much better than that.
I never received such a roster. TSAdmin also says he received no such roster. Morgrim told me that Wil Soul sent TSAdmin the roster, and TSAdmin most likely didn't think it was real due to the fact that Morgrim didn't send it to him. So really, it is the "full truth." You're just trying to make it out to be more than it really is.
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I never received such a roster. TSAdmin also says he received no such roster. Morgrim told me that Wil Soul sent TSAdmin the roster, and TSAdmin most likely didn't think it was real due to the fact that Morgrim didn't send it to him. So really, it is the "full truth." You're just trying to make it out to be more than it really is.

You're avoiding the direct question here, rather than targeting Wil as an individual, you amassed him in a class not of his own. Those players and their crimes are nothing related to Wil Soul. You allowed every Admin to remain RC, except for him, why? He has absolutely no history of any abuse as an Administrator or any abuse as a player. When itemspawners were prevelant, he refused to partake in anything, even though you so gracefully jumped the gun to assume that he was and banned him. He has no abusive history, no corruption, nothing. So tell me this Tig, why is your personal priority to "blacklist" him? We all saw the comments, "Tig's Promise".
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:34 PM
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Well that's not the full truth. The PWA got a staff roster from Geo, and they didn't have a problem with it.
How would you know for sure? Were you looking over his shoulder when he done it?

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Read.. "You give Wil Soul too much credit. Wil Soul wasn't the reason why this happened."
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Old 08-14-2010, 09:45 PM
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Old 08-14-2010, 10:29 PM
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It annoys me seeing people fired without notification, i mean geez. It happens WAY to often.

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Old 08-14-2010, 11:48 PM
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It annoys me seeing people fired without notification, i mean geez. It happens WAY to often.

Best of luck to Era and it's new management.
Agreed.

Also, if it would have just been Wil that was hired for GBA why wasn't he allowed to stay and you just removed or discuss why Geo shouldn't have hired so and so blablabla?
In my opinion, this whole thing is just screwed the #*$#*$& up.

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Atleast, thats what I was told by a Manager. Not surprising, its almost unreal to believe bias doesn't exist or isn't prevelent in any field of decision-making.
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