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[Rufus]

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

As far as I know, we've never formally discussed global events. I think it's something within the purview of the GDT to do and would be fun for the players. Given that summer is coming up and most of us will have plenty of free time, we probably should do something like this. I don't know about it being ready by the 2010 FIFA World Cup, though. That's only a few weeks away.

I would have thought that a month would have been enough to do a single event, but I understand your concerns as I knew I'd left it a little late in the day when I posted it. I know that there are others that would be willing to help out with a project like this too. Might be worth a shot.

Originally Posted by Stephen

I can link you a few more times but that joke has already run its course.

...or you can clarify if you're looking for an actual discussion of your point of view, similar to what everyone else in the thread has been doing?

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Or you can clarify if you're looking for an actual discussion of your point of view, similar to what everyone else in the thread has been doing?

I don't need to, you just gotta read it like "everyone else in this thread" has been doing. Wow, I didn't realize how stupid that quote was until I tried it. Nah, who am I joking? We all knew you're a clown.

[fowlplay4]

It really doesn't matter what the GDT does now, anything that gets it out of the current slump that it's in will be fine.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

It really doesn't matter what the GDT does now, anything that gets it out of the current slump that it's in will be fine.

It still feels like a "feel good" thread, but we might make some suggestions. Some global events would be pretty bad ass.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Stephen

I don't need to, you just gotta read it like "everyone else in this thread" has been doing. Wow, I didn't realize how stupid that quote was until I tried it. Nah, who am I joking? We all knew you're a clown.

I read your post and I don't understand where your clarity lies when your first (and only) mention of a "regular structure" is within that post. Is it really that hard to clarify what you're talking about? Enough with the personal attacks too, because it is really not my fault that you are posting vague expressions. Getting déjà vu here, this is stupid.

[Soala]

The World Cup event sounds like a great idea and has been discussed about a few minutes ago on IRC. The GDT forums will be running tomorrow and further discussions about the World Cup project will be held there.

Thanks again to anyone that has replied here, and don't forget you can contact the GDT anytime to get help.

[salesman]

awesome

[coreys]

I'm gonna try and help with the World Cup project, hopefully others will as well

[Inverness]

Some of you people just don't make sense.

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

No it's not and yes it is. There's no point to the GDT if we're going to do things that we could do without being part of an officially sanctioned group (and I use that term loosely). If we do things that way, then there's no real sense that the GDT is doing anything remarkably special. That lack only deepens the overall opinion that GraalOnline, as an institution, is a complete failure. (If you need proof, here's this: the amount of things released into the Code Gallery by the GDT hasn't been any slower than the amount of things submitted by regular scripters. Yet, the GDT is called useless, not the general developing populace. We aren't supposed to be the average developers, and limiting ourselves to that is self-defeating.)

Also, a direct 'plug-in' mechanism was one of the major things discussed, and what made me first interested in the GDT.

Just because the members of the GDT might be more experienced/skilled than the average developer does not mean we're too good to use the code gallery or anything similar.

And perhaps you should be more focused on developing the actual content, since there is hardly a need for a new delivery system unless there is something to deliver.

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

You would be the kind of person I'm talking about when I speak of people that predetermine and limit the GDT to the most absolutely boring of functions. There is nothing, aside from Inverness saying so, preventing the GDT from actually developing something seriously consequential. I would prefer to create an original server, but I would be equally pleased to just develop an existing server (like Delteria Dev). The key word is "server". We can only help Graal so much by releasing packs that help an ever-decreasing pool of developers.

I've supported a GDT effort on Bomy Island for months because of its history.

Developing new servers wasn't isn't a responsibility of the GDT, but naturally what the members do with their time is their business. So they can continue to work where they want or work on a new server, but there is no obligation.

[Cloven]

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

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I would prefer to create an original server, but I would be equally pleased to just develop an existing server (like Delteria Dev).

Anybody who would seriously like to help out with Delteria and who has above-average skill is always welcome. With Riot and I having very busy real lives we would certainly benefit from the help and are open to a wide variety of involvement on the behalf of people like yourself (or others).

And on a side note so that I don't sound as if I am playing favorites, NPulse would also benefit from GDT-related help. If a Global Development team is indeed interested in making Graal a better place than I see no logical reason why servers like Delteria and NPulse shouldn't be somewhat of a priority. I believe that through teamwork, as community members with skills we could take the initiative to make in the game more fun by coming together.. and in the process we could also take it upon ourselves to attract more players, which is really what a lot of us want anyway. Since I am responsible for Delteria of course I need to see it through first, though afterward I would certainly have no problem aiding other classic servers in need. Heck, save for super sensitive things I'm even willing to share some things to aid in the process.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Cloven

Anybody who would seriously like to help out with Delteria and who has above-average skill is always welcome. With Riot and I having very busy real lives we would certainly benefit from the help and are open to a wide variety of involvement on the behalf of people like yourself (or others).

And on a side note so that I don't sound as if I am playing favorites, NPulse would also benefit from GDT-related help. If a Global Development team is indeed interested in making Graal a better place than I see no logical reason why servers like Delteria and NPulse shouldn't be somewhat of a priority. I believe that through teamwork, as community members with skills we could take the initiative to make in the game more fun by coming together.. and in the process we could also take it upon ourselves to attract more players, which is really what a lot of us want anyway. Since I am responsible for Delteria of course I need to see it through first, though afterward I would certainly have no problem aiding other classic servers in need. Heck, save for super sensitive things I'm even willing to share some things to aid in the process.

It sounds like a good idea for the GDT to dedicate time to a specific server.

[Cloven]

Originally Posted by Stephen

It sounds like a good idea for the GDT to dedicate time to a specific server.

There is strength to be found in numbers sharing a common goal. Help finish a server off and then move along to the next. Ultimately this makes much more sense than us randomly discussing what we're all going to do for years on end. Everyone who participates receives credit for their help. Everyone has more fun playing Graal. Everyone feels more satisfied with their participation in the process. That's called a triple win scenario in my opinion.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Cloven

There is strength to be found in numbers sharing a common goal. Help finish a server off and then move along to the next. Ultimately this makes much more sense than us randomly discussing what we're all going to do for years on end. Everyone who participates receives credit for their help. Everyone has more fun playing Graal. Everyone feels more satisfied with their participation in the process. That's called a triple win scenario in my opinion.

I was being sincere - it's a good idea.

[coreys]

Originally Posted by Inverness

And perhaps you should be more focused on developing the actual content, since there is hardly a need for a new delivery system unless there is something to deliver.

QFT
Helping finish major projects should probably be the priority of the GDT, though, like Inverness said, it's more or less up to each GDT what they care to do.

[kia345]

The GDT should not exist as a global resource, when they would be far more useful as legit server developers. As it stands, the GDT puts alleged "great developers" in a passive aid position, instead of attaching the dream team to a server and making it flourish.