The problem with ignoring "unintentional" laggers.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by Crono

so basically the thread is 13 pages long because people either

a) dont get it
or
b) trowlin

or there's people who get it entirely disagree for entirely reasonable reasons.

if people were actively protesting laggers being in events (IE by leaving) rather than just crying about it on the forums, you might convince me this is really game ruining. However, people still seem to be participating with Chakrah around so it just seems to be a witch hunt.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

or there's people who get it entirely disagree for entirely reasonable reasons.

if people were actively protesting laggers being in events (IE by leaving) rather than just crying about it on the forums, you might convince me this is really game ruining. However, people still seem to be participating with Chakrah around so it just seems to be a witch hunt.

So they should stop playing the game just to try to make a point against less than a handful of players?

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

So they should stop playing the game just to try to make a point against less than a handful of players?

I'm not saying they should actively protest, what I am saying is it clearly isn't bothering them as much as they claim if they're still participating with him there.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

I'm not saying they should actively protest, what I am saying is it clearly isn't bothering them as much as they claim if they're still participating with him there.

Maybe they care more about trying to milk what little enjoyment can be got from this game without sacrificing it all because of one or two other players.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Maybe they care more about trying to milk what little enjoyment can be got from this game without sacrificing it all because of one or two other players.

well then it seems like they're still enjoying it regardless of Chakrah being there?

[Deeek]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

if people were actively protesting laggers being in events (IE by leaving) rather than just crying about it on the forums.

Of course that's not going to happen because nobody legitimately cares about it.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

if people were actively protesting laggers being in events (IE by leaving) rather than just crying about it on the forums, you might convince me this is really game ruining. However, people still seem to be participating with Chakrah around so it just seems to be a witch hunt.

some ET's will remove you if you're too laggy, others wont. i think this thread is trying to standardize it on UN and i cant possibly see why you'd disagree with it.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by Crono

some ET's will remove you if you're too laggy, others wont. i think this thread is trying to standardize it on UN and i cant possibly see why you'd disagree with it.

I tend to not like anything that excludes players whether it be a guild house you need a tag to get into or a player house or an event that you need a good enough connection for.

I don't like the idea of development time being used if not every player can use the outcome.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

I tend to not like anything that excludes players whether it be a guild house you need a tag to get into or a player house or an event that you need a good enough connection for.

I don't like the idea of development time being used if not every player can use the outcome.

You prefer to allow a single player to become an inconvenience for everyone else involved in a competitive event? You prefer to see people artificially lag themselves to gain an upper hand?

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by Crono

You prefer to allow a single player to become an inconvenience for everyone else involved in a competitive event? You prefer to see people artificially lag themselves to gain an upper hand?

I'd prefer to see no one excluded for any reason besides hacking or exploiting. I have had awful ISPs in the past that were probably on par or worse than Chakrah's current and if you think it's frustrating to play against him, it's definitely worse to be him.

I don't see any evidence that he is artificially lagging.

I have seen much worse connections/lags than his so I don't understand why this witch hunt has begun in the first place. What did he do, piss a bunch of people off by beating them in a spar?

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

I'd prefer to see no one excluded for any reason besides hacking or exploiting.

Ok.

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

I don't see any evidence that he is artificially lagging.

I have seen much worse connections/lags than his so I don't understand why this witch hunt has begun in the first place. What did he do, piss a bunch of people off by beating them in a spar?

Who's "he"? I never referred to anyone, between us.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by Crono

Ok.



Who's "he"? I never referred to anyone, between us.

It's fairly obvious that everyone in this thread is screaming for Chakrah's blood, spare me the bull****.