The problem with ignoring "unintentional" laggers.

[Rufus]

We have one main spar on Unholy Nation and it has a queue. "Just don't spar laggers!" is not an option, and the majority should not have to just stop sparring because of one or two people. What we currently have is also why ping-specific spars would not work; it is unsociable to place everyone in different rooms, people wouldn't enjoy that. In addition to a spar queue, we also have spar tournament events which participants have no control over. You can't just choose who you want to spar, and that's the way it should be, but players should not have to sit out of these because of one or two people who are abusing lag.

Sparring isn't the only competitive aspect of the server. We have events and Castle Wars, which again you don't have the option to pick your opponents in. Each competitive area has its own dynamic, but all three are generally based upon PVP which changes a lot when you're playing against those with massive lag. Like I said in my opening post, if you are doing something that is unfair to everyone else, you shouldn't be allowed to participate until you are fair.

What is the incentive to attempt to fix the problems you are causing for other people if you're allowed to do what you're doing?

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by Rufus

We have one main spar on Unholy Nation and it has a queue. "Just don't spar laggers!" is not an option, and the majority should not have to just stop sparring because of one or two people. What we currently have is also why ping-specific spars would not work; it is unsociable to place everyone in different rooms, people wouldn't enjoy that. In addition to a spar queue, we also have spar tournament events which participants have no control over. You can't just choose who you want to spar, and that's the way it should be, but players should not have to sit out of these because of one or two people who are abusing lag.

Sparring isn't the only competitive aspect of the server. We have events and Castle Wars, which again you don't have the option to pick your opponents in. Each competitive area has its own dynamic, but all three are generally based upon PVP which changes a lot when you're playing against those with massive lag. Like I said in my opening post, if you are doing something that is unfair to everyone else, you shouldn't be allowed to participate until you are fair.

What is the incentive to attempt to fix the problems you are causing for other people if you're allowed to do what you're doing?

at the same time, you cannot tell legitimate laggers that they cannot play unless we're all willing to get rid of any laggers what-so-ever

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Hiro

at the same time, you cannot tell legitimate laggers that they cannot play unless we're all willing to get rid of any laggers what-so-ever

If 1 player has an unfair advantage over 10-20 players, yeah you can.

[WaDaFack]

Originally Posted by Rufus

If 1 player has an unfair advantage over 10-20 players, yeah you can.

You lag yourself anyways, k?
Besides, half the players on the server intentionally lag themselves to get that unfair edge. So, if you where to add a lag cap to events + sparring, than I suppose half the server won't be playing events, nor sparring.
Also, there's the players who warp all over the place or have MASSIVE delay and yet still remain under 100-150 MS.
^_^

[Luda]

Originally Posted by WaDaFack

half the players on the server intentionally lag themselves to get that unfair edge. So, if you where to add a lag cap to events + sparring, than I suppose half the server won't be playing events, nor sparring.

Or they'll fix it.