Event Masters rights.

[Seeya]

Alright; I'm going to make a serious post; i don't want any un-needed drama, so I'm not going to name the obvious abusers; anyone who plays Graal Kingdoms can see them do it.

But I've realized a LOT lately- not lately, for the past YEAR, that most Event Masters, (there are very few legit ones that don't do this are all abusing there "Defend Bomboria" warp.

Now, practically -everyone- who plays Kingdoms have HAD to notice this, seeing a "defend bomboria" screen pop up and have your breath stop for a moment- AN EVENT ON KINGDOMS FOR ONCE! and then the warp drops, and you see an events master, off tag run into Bomb trade.

For someone who doesn't play kingdoms, Events Masters can set up a warp to Bomboria, to host a "summon monster / kill" event, for players to receive drops, ect. Now, in this perspective, they could say, run to Dustari, get an escort, teleport back to Bomboria, turn in the escort, get 50 diamonds; basically making the game MUCH easier for any EM, giving them an unfair advantage. But of course, this is a very situational warp, for many things, even though.. honestly, when was the last time a "Defend Bomboria" event was hosted?


Alright; now that I've gotten that out, a complaint is nothing without a simple fix, in my opinion a simple fix would be making there no "instant warp" events, or make a minimum of 3 people needed for an event.

Honestly though, why should we have to change the event system for some immature, abusive staff members?

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Alright, now that's out of the way, i have another ... very, economically ruining bug which i have seen EM's using, yet i HAVE reported, but i had no proof; waiting untill i catch the right screen shot.

EM's can spawn escorts, and make them INSTANTLY spawn themselves a Increase Weapon Damage, or Enchant Armor, or hey, they want a new Gale Armor? They can spawn up 75 more EC's with the escort system. When there done spawning there 75 EC's, hell, they can just go ahead and spawn the 12 EA's to enchant it.
This has been going on for months. The conspiracy behind the Event Master's is a joke.

tl;dr
Giving far too much power to the wrong people.

[nullify]

Trust me, if EM's could spawn IWDs there would actually be some around for once. You're uneducated at best.

[Seeya]

Originally Posted by nullify

Trust me, if EM's could spawn IWDs there would actually be some around for once. You're uneducated at best.

Pretty critical of you, but as far as i know, when sky was toying with the escort system after an event,as far as i know you can spawn EA's, IWDs, and improve str, dex, con, ect. I talked to tig about it a month ago.

[Todd45]

Well there's no way to really prove it unless you can catch someone. Other than that, It's all about trust at this point.

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by Seeya

Pretty critical of you, but as far as i know, when sky was toying with the escort system after an event,as far as i know you can spawn EA's, IWDs, and improve str, dex, con, ect. I talked to tig about it a month ago.

As far as I know only improvement potions, golden keys, event coins and iwds/eas can only be spawned from the escort quest but It might have changed by now.

[nullify]

Originally Posted by cyan3

As far as I know only improvement potions, golden keys, event coins and iwds/eas can only be spawned from the escort quest but It might have changed by now.

Nah, it's still the same. Hence the reason the escort event is never used.

[Seeya]

Originally Posted by Todd45

Well there's no way to really prove it unless you can catch someone. Other than that, It's all about trust at this point.

Well honestly, you have to think about the staff members who were punished in the past for abusing, like when you couldn't take damage on staff tag, and staff abused killing zombies, taking no damage- so Tig made it so the abusers took 10x damage for 2 weeks. If they'd abuse back then, why would they STILL be trusted with all of these rights?

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Originally Posted by nullify

Nah, it's still the same. Hence the reason the escort event is never used.

I dont get where your going with this; so do you take back your first post? Thats what i meant from the beginning; using the escort **event, Event Masters can spawn those items.

[nullify]

My second post explained that you can not spawn IWD/EA/Bonus scrolls. Felix confirmed that. It's not a difficult concept to understand.

[Seeya]

Originally Posted by cyan3

As far as I know only improvement potions, golden keys, event coins and iwds/eas can only be spawned from the escort quest but It might have changed by now.

either your blind, or im missing a major detail.

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by Seeya

Well honestly, you have to think about the staff members who were punished in the past for abusing, like when you couldn't take damage on staff tag, and staff abused killing zombies, taking no damage- so Tig made it so the abusers took 10x damage for 2 weeks. If they'd abuse back then, why would they STILL be trusted with all of these rights?

Only a very few staff members abused the tag in that instance and the punishment was more than enough for the offence. These staff members could still be trusted with rights because the nature of the abusing wasn't very bad and didn't do much damage to the server. I could be wrong but this is only my opinion on the subject.

Also this thread isn't about staff abusing and I would prefer if it would stay on topic.

[nullify]

Ah I did miss the part where I seen EA/IWD. Apologies. They're not on the list now, though.

[Seeya]

Originally Posted by nullify

Ah I did miss the part where I seen EA/IWD. Apologies. They're not on the list now, though.

I'm not going to argue this one, I'm not the guy with the list of Escort Prizes, but I'm sure for a -FACT- unless Tig fixed it when i told him about it, around a month ago, that you used to be able to spawn Enchant Armors with it. I won one in Sky's escort event; that's when i first realized it.

[Sam]

I think there are logs about escort events. The EM Admin should have RC to check event logs.

[Seeya]

Originally Posted by Sam

I think there are logs about escort events. The EM Admin should have RC to check event logs.

~99% sure Events Admin doesn't have an RC, but you make a qualified point, that if there is logs, tig could check them if they got to that point.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Seeya

~99% sure Events Admin doesn't have an RC, but you make a qualified point, that if there is logs, tig could check them if they got to that point.

I am not familiar who have RC on GK. But on my opinion an Admin should have RC. I think one of his main duties it to control, to train, and add/remove staff. If it is not possible to do it without RC, he needs to have RC. Tig don't have so much time to do all these things, beside his other duties on the server and IRL.

[Seeya]

Originally Posted by Sam

I am not familiar who have RC on GK. But on my opinion an Admin should have RC. I think one of his main duties it to control, to train, and add/remove staff. If it is not possible to do it without RC, he needs to have RC. Tig don't have so much time to do all these things, beside his other duties on the server and IRL.

Well, as far as i know, Stephen is in charge of all non development staff.
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Back to the point; i think that we should discuss the real matter, the fact that all the EM's are warping to main instantly, and its pretty disrespectful to the players. >_>.

[joel34]

Kale should be a EM.

It's annoying how they host Defend Bomboria. I thought they host it for real because i haven't seen that event in around 1 month.

[Seeya]

Originally Posted by joel34

Kale should be a EM.

second

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Seeya

Well, as far as i know, Stephen is in charge of all non development staff.
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Back to the point; i think that we should discuss the real matter, the fact that all the EM's are warping to main instantly, and its pretty disrespectful to the players. >_>.

Ok, sorry for going off topic.
I observed that too, but to be honest I don't care. On the contrary, I think a person who spend his time to entertain other players should have some advantages as long as it doesn't hurts the rights of someone else.
If someone uses his staff wings to catch an escort person it's not ok.

[Seeya]

Originally Posted by Sam

Ok, sorry for going off topic.
I observed that too, but to be honest I don't care. On the contrary, I think a person who spend his time to entertain other players should have some advantages as long as it doesn't hurts the rights of someone else.
If someone uses his staff wings to catch an escort person it's not ok.

Whats the difference from using wings to catch an escort, to using warp to get to places faster, per say with an escort? the advantage of being staff is respect, I'm a FAQ, and i don't expect a damned thing, i just help players.

[nullify]

Completely agreed with Sam.
Answering questions via PM isn't very hard @ Kale.

[Seeya]

Originally Posted by nullify

Completely agreed with Sam.
Answering questions via PM isn't very hard @ Kale.

Exactly why i don't expect a damned thing

But, do you think hosting an event is hard?

[Proof]

im pretty sure you do expect something actually you go on about getting wings all the time XD

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by Proof

im pretty sure you do expect something actually you go on about getting wings all the time XD

FAQs do not need any rights or privileges such as wings to do the job at all, 85% of the time FAQs can help the players via using pms and is very rare that we are required to physically help players but are still expected to when asked but only if the request is within reason and not solely for personal gain. That being said wings do help for the other 15% giving a faster arrival time to help players but it isn't required at all and honestly took me 12 months to earn mine so we'll be helping people much more without them.

[MajinDragon]

Firstly you've completely overlooked that logs exist and any EM stupid enough to go spawning escorts to gain ec's and eventually items/riches would be caught and the escort creation is a right as a far as i know, iscariot picks and chooses whom he trusts and they are awarded with more rights. Secondly the main warp isn't such a big issue, i've used it when stuck on samurai island since the ferry had just left - another 15-20mins waiting. I make an effort to remove the admin message that appears when an event description is placed but it doesn't intrude into anyones gameplay. As far as abusing it to help them quest faster, i could only leave it to trust. You trust your employees won't aspire to abuse to better themselves in-game via financial/stat means.

[Nature2]

The Events Admin doesnt have rc + logs? -.-

It is very importand that the EA has logs!!!

I checked them very often when i was bored on gk or if someone complaint about an events master.

If the EA learns how to read the logs fast the abuser cant run away and and the EA wins!

If Stefan or Tig dont want someone more for RC tig could link the logs to a new GUI so its readable without RC.

[joel34]

I agree, EA should have a log + RC

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Nature2

If Stefan or Tig dont want someone more for RC tig could link the logs to a new GUI so its readable without RC.

This would be a good option.

[Stephen]

If you have complaints please use the official channels to report them. You may forum PM me, Tigairius, or try to keep an eye out for either of us on client.