Classic Graal for iPhone

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by James

plx enable classic iphone for graal on pc

The PC has such a significant advantage over the iPhone, it would ruin any kind of PvP experience for the iPhone. I.e: In a spar you can hit them and already be on the other side of them before they're finished getting knocked back.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

The PC has such a significant advantage over the iPhone, it would ruin any kind of PvP experience for the iPhone. I.e: In a spar you can hit them and already be on the other side of them before they're finished getting knocked back.

I believe he plans to when v6 is released though, to try to get the two communities more involved(viral marketing sort of thing?).

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Darklux

Hows about an android version?

Graal is already running on Android, will eventually release it soon. We are still waiting for the Nexus One (only have two G1s right now)

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

The PC has such a significant advantage over the iPhone, it would ruin any kind of PvP experience for the iPhone. I.e: In a spar you can hit them and already be on the other side of them before they're finished getting knocked back.

Actually on iPhone you are slightly faster right now (0.6 instead of 0.5) and can beat PC players as long as you are not a complete newbie.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Graal is already running on Android, will eventually release it soon. We are still waiting for the Nexus One (only have two G1s right now)

Exciting stuff. QuattroPlay will be released to work on all platforms?

Originally Posted by Stefan

can beat PC players as long as you are not a complete newbie.

[SKJF91]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Actually on iPhone you are slightly faster right now (0.6 instead of 0.5) and can beat PC players as long as you are not a complete newbie.

Is this going to be changed when the server is opened for non-ipod players as well?

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by SKJF91

Is this going to be changed when the server is opened for non-ipod players as well?

Like...? PC players? Not following what you're asking. It would completely defeat the purpose if he made PC players faster as well.

[Rufus]

If they're opening the Classic iPhone server to PC players too, what is going to be the purpose of the Classic that is under construction?

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Actually on iPhone you are slightly faster right now (0.6 instead of 0.5) and can beat PC players as long as you are not a complete newbie.

The amount of control is much greater than the iPhone, and the performance hit they suffer compared to the PC client allows the PC to ez and outrun any iPhone player 1v1.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

The amount of control is much greater than the iPhone, and the performance hit they suffer compared to the PC client allows the PC to ez and outrun any iPhone player 1v1.

Perhaps an easy way to distinguish PC players from iPhone players can alleviate that some(so iPhone players can avoid sparring with PC players if they want to). Maybe a heart advantage or something as well? I dunno, it's something that can be balanced over time.

[Umat]

or swords take more damage to pc players but equal to other iPhone players.

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Perhaps an easy way to distinguish PC players from iPhone players can alleviate that some(so iPhone players can avoid sparring with PC players if they want to). Maybe a heart advantage or something as well? I dunno, it's something that can be balanced over time.

If it does we'll just do iPhone/Pod only spar rooms, and other things like that.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

If it does we'll just do iPhone/Pod only spar rooms, and other things like that.

PKing will be the biggest issue(is there even any PKing?) -- it's a form of combat that you don't choose to be in other than being at the wrong places, and an advantage there will probably be the most frustrating.

[maximus_asinus]

Originally Posted by Rufus

If they're opening the Classic iPhone server to PC players too, what is going to be the purpose of the Classic that is under construction?

This.

Is there an ETA on the opening of the iPhone Classic server to PC players? I would come back to playing if I can play Classic again, and better sooner than later.

[Admins]

We have already said before that it can be interesting to meet PC players with your iPhone/iPod/etc. but right now it's not possible (v5 bugged on the server) and we don't know yet if it's good (more lag, different controls, different communication etc.), so we don't really need to speak yet about such problems.

[Nataxo]

I'd rather play on the PC version at the moment, for some reason my Graal on iPhone is very laggy in the outside... I can barely keep a fight with a Baddie .

What can contribute to my lagg problem? my Wi-Fi connection? the ammount of memory left on my itouch??:/

Suggestions are appriciated :P

[Nataxo]

With the lagg update my lagg is gone. *thumbs up*

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Nataxo

With the lagg update my lagg is gone. *thumbs up*

Good to hear
We have added an optimization to the gserver to only send updates to players which are visible on the screen, can be configured in the server options (syncdistancex and syncdistancey).

[12171217]

3GS users hold significant advantages. Will anything be done to balance them?

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by 12171217

3GS users hold significant advantages. Will anything be done to balance them?

I hope not. That's like saying players with faster computers will experience less lag than those using slower ones.

[Vima]

Oh My God! Right now 314 players on Graal Iphone Server.
Guys, this is getting insane. Keep up with the good job Stefan!!!

[12171217]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

I hope not. That's like saying players with faster computers will experience less lag than those using slower ones.

I meant like adding frameskip support instead of blatent slowdown, to speed up the clients with lower framerates.

[SwimChao]

Originally Posted by Vima

Oh My God! Right now 314 players on Graal Iphone Server.
Guys, this is getting insane. Keep up with the good job Stefan!!!

We're constantly keeping tabs on the player count while we work, and celebrating every time it breaks the past highest record (atleast I am ).

It's growing almost daily! I personally anticipate it to break 500 players within the next month or two (considering the amount of time it's been out, and the amount of players it has drawn in).

[cbk1994]

I'm amazed Graal can still support 300+ players without crashing .

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

I'm amazed Graal can still support 300+ players without crashing .

I have traditionally been very critical of Stefan and even his aptitude as a programmer - but if there's one thing I can concede, and even do it proudly, it's that he is very effective at programming lightweight but heavy throughput control structures like the gServer and npcServer.

[Clockwork]

So how much longer until they all get bored and dissapear? :o

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Clockwork

So how much longer until they all get bored and dissapear? :o

I'm not very informed on Classic iPhone, but presuming they allow chat - users may stick.

It's basically the same mechanism of the original Graal Classic, except in a different generation on a different device. Chatting could help form a pretty solid community, especially if it's easy and convenient to do.

[Darklux]

One question i'd like to ask:

Will we be double charged when the final apps are out, or will a subscribtion be sufficient?

[Nataxo]

^ I have a similar question:

Eurocenter released classic+ today, it includes the customization pack plus the future house update for 1$, same price for the customization pack on the first app

how will we get the house update????

[fowlplay4]

The house update will become available in the shop when it's ready for those without the Classic+ client.

When the house update is ready, there will be a news article/notification and with the how and where.

[CremisiSteam]

Question... If I got this would I be able to use my current graalonline account? (The one I have stuff on?)

I know that you can't connect to other servers yet (till more are made for this) but could you use that account?

Or do we have to make an entirely new one?

[fowlplay4]

Currently when you login, to quicken the process to get in game you're automatically logged into a pc:account (guest). There are plans to introduce an accounts system so you can play your same account on multiple iPhones and maybe even on the PC.

[12171217]

Originally Posted by Nataxo

^ I have a similar question:

Eurocenter released classic+ today, it includes the customization pack plus the future house update for 1$, same price for the customization pack on the first app

how will we get the house update????

I might buy Classic+ instead of buying the house update separately, since I already bought the customization pack, maybe there will be more perks with Classic+ in the future. Might be a good investment

Otherwise, it seems entirely pointless to separate it into two apps.

[CremisiSteam]

Still though. I would rather use my current account than make an all new account all over again. (I have 2 accounts already... I got an extra when zodiac had the 5 char limit... I wanted more slots)

[Nataxo]

Originally Posted by 12171217

I might buy Classic+ instead of buying the house update separately, since I already bought the customization pack, maybe there will be more perks with Classic+ in the future. Might be a good investment

Otherwise, it seems entirely pointless to separate it into two apps.

:/ this disturbs me, so it was kind of pointless to buy the customization pack on the first app?

I don't want to buy the classic+ right now because I bought the customization pack already. I'm just wondering how will they offer people like me the house update

[TheJames]

Question as well..

when will us non-iphone users be able to log on the server as a player to play with all the iphone people and convince them to play :]

Im contemplating buying an iphone just for the soul fact of 300 players on a server!

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by TheJames

when will us non-iphone users be able to log on the server as a player to play with all the iphone people and convince them to play :]

This has been addressed so many times in this thread.

[TheJames]

Oh.. well I didn't see an answer

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by TheJames

Oh.. well I didn't see an answer

Here's the answer - I was curious too.

Originally Posted by Stefan

We have already said before that it can be interesting to meet PC players with your iPhone/iPod/etc. but right now it's not possible (v5 bugged on the server) and we don't know yet if it's good (more lag, different controls, different communication etc.), so we don't really need to speak yet about such problems.

[TheJames]

Ah cool, thanks

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by 12171217

Otherwise, it seems entirely pointless to separate it into two apps.

I agree... all that does is make it harder on them to update the apps (one might lag behind in the approval process, for example). It would've been much better simply sold as an in-app purchase.