In game Gani Editor

[Fulg0reSama]

That seems a bit overcomplicating for ganiing dusty, I mean it sounds good on paper but how would that work on the real thing and from how that process would go it seems like the old fashioned way would go faster.

I'd like to state that ive found two things odd.

1. No dragging function works once you place down the sprite onto the board, unless you gotta hold down some button than I couldn't catch it.
2. Once you place down a sprite it wouldn't allow me to delete a selected sprite, Because you know when you gani there's sometimes a chance that you may find a way to make the gani look better but you need a different sprite to do it so hell you'd delete. That's the irritating part about this, Other than that I like this so far.

Would like to know if maybe im missing something or what

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

That seems a bit overcomplicating for ganiing dusty, I mean it sounds good on paper but how would that work on the real thing and from how that process would go it seems like the old fashioned way would go faster.

Here's an example from my experience. On Bomy Island we use 17-ish different attributes, and 15 of those are solely for the body and clothing. Generally if I want to create an animation, I have to edit 16 different things for every single frame I want, and that'd just be for the character. With Dusty's idea/suggestion I'd be able to couple all of the body and clothing together if I just wanted to move those, or copy all of the head frames to move them down all at once. It would make for a much faster, less frustrating, and a lot more fluid creation.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Here's an example from my experience. On Bomy Island we use 17-ish different attributes, and 15 of those are solely for the body and clothing. Generally if I want to create an animation, I have to edit 16 different things for every single frame I want, and that'd just be for the character. With Dusty's idea/suggestion I'd be able to couple all of the body and clothing together if I just wanted to move those, or copy all of the head frames to move them down all at once. It would make for a much faster, less frustrating, and a lot more fluid creation.

Okay.. That now actually helps me get a better idea of how this could go. It looks like a good idea. A visual would help me better perhaps.

Now let me ask are you saying like...

Classification of sprites?

Example: bodyformonsterherename-1 to... 57.

And for crazy irony they're all same the same type.

You'd simply throw them into that classification, Than by selection you could perhaps mousewheel through them and throw it out right there?

2 hours of consciousness and my mind's gears are still running slow.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

That seems a bit overcomplicating for ganiing dusty, I mean it sounds good on paper but how would that work on the real thing and from how that process would go it seems like the old fashioned way would go faster.

How is it overcomplicating? It's simplifying matters immensely. In fact, the only way to attach sprites right now as far as I know is by manually typing it out in the gani text file.

However, as far as visualizing it goes... it's hard to explain. Basically it lets you select and control multiple objects. Like I said, I select(click on) the body sprite in the gani. I can move the body around while it's selected. However, if I have a gani I have to sit and move each and every sprite in the gani by themselves. This is cumbersome. However, most of the time programs let you drag a box around the canvas and it selects all objects within the box. That's cool, BUT, it can also be inaccurate. That's where ctrl+click and shift+click come into play. It lets you control what's in the selection by removing and adding objects manually. So say I have a sprite with a body, head, hat and shield. I want to treat the head, hat and body as one object for later manipulation(IE as one object via attachsprite). I drag a box around the sprite and select everything, but that includes the shield. I don't want the shield as part of the selection, so all I have to do is ctrl+click the shield and it gets removed from the selection. Now I can bound the rest as one object via attachsprite. In the end this makes working with many sprites much easier.

I also suggest that along with selecting multiple sprites, the ability to move/delete/manipulate multiple sprites without having to attach them together. It's akin to working with individual pixels in pixel art, where each pixel is a 'sprite' in this case. If you drew out a simple face, you don't want to sit and have to select each and every pixel and move them individually. You want to highlight the whole face and move it. In graalshop, we have to do the former -- select each object in the gani and move them individually. It's a painful process.