After 6 years - Page 3

Unkownsoldier · #31 11-03-2009, 04:43 AM

After 6 years you have accomplished what other servers have in 3 months.

Crono · #32 11-03-2009, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

After 6 years you have accomplished what other servers have in 3 months.

What other servers?

MysticX2X · #33 11-03-2009, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx

you plan on getting classic tab with this?

Oh man a cliff error.

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I'm sure they'll get to correcting the tile errors.

TheJames · #34 11-03-2009, 08:50 AM

I dont understand why theres so much harsh critizism on servers nowadays, we're just trying to make a new server for all of you to play? You act is if we're trying to do something harmful to the community.

Those screenshots are from the tutorial witch we're fixing up. Alot was slapped together. Please browse the overworld for those talking about the tiles. We've re-done all the tiles, and majority of the buildings to add a darker look; witch everyone seems to prefer.

So please, be thankful theres still developers out there like me, and my team who want to make a server playable, but yet all the harshness and hate has pushed great developers away from this game. Honestly, i'd love to see the people hating compile a server, and keep it active, and when its in its prime and people play, maintain a PC of 45+. Its hard, so please, help our playerworlds suceed and get more players to graal, that you "love so much" and have been "playing since 02" so you want to see graal succeed, correct?

Any input, thats helpful, that would make Atrius better?

TheJames · #35 11-03-2009, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

After 6 years you have accomplished what other servers have in 3 months.

Yea, i'd love to see those scripts. Its easy as **** to code a bunch of stuff poorly. If you'd like, I could show you a few of Atrius re-coded scripts. Its pretty intense, guy.

Demisis_P2P · #36 11-03-2009, 08:57 AM

I'm not judging you based on your content.

It's just that you've already paid for a bunch of UC servers so far. If your server gets approved then Graal is gonna lose a bunch of money from Atrius 8, 9 and 10. So I doubt it'll get approved.

MysticX2X · #37 11-03-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

I'm not judging you based on your content.

It's just that you've already paid for a bunch of UC servers so far. If your server gets approved then Graal is gonna lose a bunch of money from Atrius 8, 9 and 10. So I doubt it'll get approved.

Servers are reviewed by PWA - unpaid staff. I don't get why they would turn down a server so Graal can get more money, if that is what you're saying. New servers on the classic tab also entice people to upgrade if that server is something they really enjoy.

Demisis_P2P · #38 11-03-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X

New servers on the classic tab...

When has this ever happened?

They replaced Maloria with Zodiac, removed Atlantis and removed Classic.
There are fewer servers now than there were before.

The whole server rental thing is a money making scheme, not a content creation scheme. Otherwise, where is all the content?

MysticX2X · #39 11-03-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

When has this ever happened?

They replaced Maloria with Zodiac, removed Atlantis and removed Classic.
There are fewer servers now than there were before.

The whole server rental thing is a money making scheme, not a content creation scheme. Otherwise, where is all the content?

I probably should of said included that I was generally speaking, and not referring to anything specific.

Server rental is really just to pay for the costs that GO actually has to pay for the server boxes they host it on. They're not even making a profit if that.

We all know why there is no content.

Demisis_P2P · #40 11-03-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Server rental is really just to pay for the costs that GO actually has to pay for the server boxes they host it on. They're not even making a profit if that.

So if the cost of the UC server is already covered by the owner, why do the developers also have to pay to develop on that server?

The classic servers don't pay for hosting, so it makes sense that the players would have to pay for access to the "premium content" (lol) on those servers.

But in the case of UC servers it's just double dipping. And it's a major hurdle for actual content creation, because I sure as hell don't want to pay to work.

I think this idea has already been floated, but I think that Graal should be marketed as a FREE game again.
Let people play and develop on UC servers for free and charge players to play on "Classic" servers.
Then promote any half-way decent UC servers to Classic.
A bunch of the server's playerbase will probably upgrade their account to keep playing on that same server (here is your revenue, dudes).
Players that don't upgrade will probably move to another UC server to play on and help develop until that server eventually hits Classic as well (rinse and repeat).

As a bonus they should give the developers of any server that goes Classic "Developer" accounts that let them play on Classic servers for free. So that people are actually encouraged and rewarded for creating content.

/end off topic rant

Good luck with Atrius.

xnervNATx · #41 11-03-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJames

Those screenshots are from the tutorial witch we're fixing up. Alot was slapped together. Please browse the overworld for those talking about the tiles. We've re-done all the tiles, and majority of the buildings to add a darker look; witch everyone seems to prefer.

ok then people seem to prefer those tiles error?

Rufus · #42 11-03-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJames

So please, be thankful theres still developers out there like me, and my team who want to make a server playable, but yet all the harshness and hate has pushed great developers away from this game. Honestly, i'd love to see the people hating compile a server, and keep it active, and when its in its prime and people play, maintain a PC of 45+. Its hard, so please, help our playerworlds suceed and get more players to graal, that you "love so much" and have been "playing since 02" so you want to see graal succeed, correct?

Yeah it's hard to create a successful server, but you haven't really succeeded either. You're not only opening discussion to developers here, but players too; If the majority feel that Atrius looks appalling, they're simply not going to play it, even if it does somehow reach the Classic tab.

TheJames · #43 11-03-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx

ok then people seem to prefer those tiles error?

If you'd pay attention, and stop being an idiot; and looking for tinw flaws, I said we're currently working on small tile errors like that, gawsh

and Dem, I agree with you %110, something needs to be changed about that

xXziroXx · #44 11-03-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

They replaced Maloria with Zodiac

100 percent incorrect. Maloria and Zodiac were active at the same time for around 2 months before Maniaman decided to ask Stefan to put Maloria as Under Construction while Maloria v3 was being worked on, in order to retun with a bang instead of slowly rotting away due to lack of updates on Classic list.

Admins · #45 11-03-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

I think this idea has already been floated, but I think that Graal should be marketed as a FREE game again.
Let people play and develop on UC servers for free and charge players to play on "Classic" servers.

That could work although there are a lot of people who have classic lifetime account and would complain if they cannot play for free on classic servers anymore.