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Old 10-19-2009, 09:48 AM
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Door... I can say with utmost confidence, that any major form of boycotting would get Graal shut down faster than we would have time to come on the forums and complain the boycott not working. This is why, for that reason, that is not an option for improving Graal.
You're conveniently not responding to Door when she's brought the discussion back to her original point, and have decided to focus on things that come across as extreme when they've only really been an example. Because it's only a hypothetical example and not even close to something that is happening in the reality, you should be able to see that "writ[ing] people off" simply because they complain is a completely ignorant statement to make and that is what this entire discussion has been about. Those people are the ones that are keeping this game alive, not the people who pretend as though everything is fine and dandy. At least these people are still here, still trying and optimistic that change could potentially happen, but because they're a little more realistic about their views of the game that's suddenly a bad thing

Yeah, no.
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:15 PM
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You're conveniently not responding to Door when she's brought the discussion back to her original point, and have decided to focus on things that come across as extreme when they've only really been an example. Because it's only a hypothetical example and not even close to something that is happening in the reality, you should be able to see that "writ[ing] people off" simply because they complain is a completely ignorant statement to make and that is what this entire discussion has been about. Those people are the ones that are keeping this game alive, not the people who pretend as though everything is fine and dandy. At least these people are still here, still trying and optimistic that change could potentially happen, but because they're a little more realistic about their views of the game that's suddenly a bad thing

Yeah, no.
I already addressed Door's main points in a previous post. I don't see a reason to do it again. I told her I agree with most of her points.

Also, I already said that negativity is good until it gets too excessive, because then it is just demotivating. Do you really think that constantly nagging will really fix something? It really won't. You guys have been doing it for a while now and nothing has changed. Instead, you've just made it harder to get things done because you could be helping, but you're not.

Do not twist my words around either, I only "write people off" who constantly complain, not people who complain. There is a large difference.

If you and your friends would focus as much attention to Bomy Island as you do to complaining, we might just have a good "new" server to play for Graal.
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:19 PM
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I already addressed Door's main points in a previous post. I don't see a reason to do it again. I told her I agree with most of her points.

Also, I already said that negativity is good until it gets too excessive, because then it is just demotivating. Do you really think that constantly nagging will really fix something? It really won't. You guys have been doing it for a while now and nothing has changed. Instead, you've just made it harder to get things done because you could be helping, but you're not.

Do not twist my words around either, I only "write people off" who constantly complain, not people who complain. There is a large difference.

If you and your friends would focus as much attention to Bomy Island as you do to complaining, we might just have a good "new" server to play for Graal.
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gj lashing out to change the subject away from your own complete and utter inability to defend your actions against everything I said. Yeah, you agreed with me, yeah, you said I'm too negative. Then I told you exactly what I think that means, and you are completely ignoring it just like Rufus said. At least fall gracefully.
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:38 PM
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I already addressed Door's main points in a previous post. I don't see a reason to do it again. I told her I agree with most of her points.
Yeah okay, you agreed with points that contradict most of your actions and attitude towards people? What cop-out. It's pretty obvious you just lack of a viable response for what she said.

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Also, I already said that negativity is good until it gets too excessive, because then it is just demotivating. Do you really think that constantly nagging will really fix something? It really won't. You guys have been doing it for a while now and nothing has changed. Instead, you've just made it harder to get things done because you could be helping, but you're not.
If people aren't happy, they're either going to up and leave or resort to complaining about it. That is the nature of a consumer. Excessive problems? Excessive nagging.

You're not helping anything at all with your faux-ideals. When you go out of your way to do something for someone else they might appreciate it; do everything for that someone else and they'll end up taking it for granted. Look where we are now. We do all of the in-game development, they expect and rely on the players to do it, and development used to be a 'thing on the side' for players to get involved in if they wanted to. We should not be attempting to motivate through doing, there should already be a motivation provided in the money that is paid by all of the players out there looking for a change. You can call it "helping" all you want, but it's really not a case of just lending a hand.

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If you and your friends would focus as much attention to Bomy Island as you do to complaining, we might just have a good "new" server to play for Graal.
I'm not going to sink to your level of immaturity, but you're manager of Graal Kingdoms and where's the much needed releases for that? You're administrator of the guilds, and where's the much needed content for that? You should know exactly what problems people face here whilst developing. Clearly your positivity isn't resulting in much either, especially since you have numerous things under your belt that you appear to be completely neglecting. Call me, a player, out all you like for not being able to contribute at a fast pace, but who is paying me? Who is paying my staff? I can proudly state that anything and everything we do is for the players though, I bet you can't say the same.
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:48 PM
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If you and your friends would focus as much attention to Bomy Island as you do to complaining, we might just have a good "new" server to play for Graal.
If you paid enough attention to GK, maybe it would be a half-decent server and people would play it instead of getting on the forums and complaining.
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Old 10-19-2009, 06:00 PM
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If you paid enough attention to GK, maybe it would be a half-decent server and people would play it instead of getting on the forums and complaining.
Complain.

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