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Old 10-07-2009, 07:18 AM
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Well everything depends on how they are doing it at this point. Because he didn't have to pay at first to become the Manager of Classic. I doubt he has to now. (2)But can it be all his fault this project isn't running as fast as you wish? I know he could be a factor, but it's hard to find skilled people now, especailly working on "UC" servers, and if Classic does have people, are they working? That's what he should be attempting to work on. I've logged on quite a few times and the only persons I've seen were White Dragon? whomever he is, idling on RC and Laura, which her profile says she's (1)FAQ Admin, which really doesn't serve a purpose at this point in time as there are no questions to be asked if there are (3**only outside levels) lol.. Well whoever is working on this project, good luck. I hope there are some people who still do care about this server besides me, and hopefully you can bring it to the potential I know it can reach.
1- asstadmin
2-this project would be advanced if storm was doing his job, as a manager your job is not to log on for 2 mins every week, im more active than him.
3**-you clearly dont know anything if you talk like you never ever logged on it since its went UC.

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Old 10-08-2009, 01:54 AM
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1- asstadmin
2-this project would be advanced if storm was doing his job, as a manager your job is not to log on for 2 mins every week, im more active than him.
3**-you clearly dont know anything if you talk like you never ever logged on it since its went UC.

no need to try and backup a ghost.
Okay....
1. Asst Admin. No need for either an Admin or Asst Admin if progress is at a stand still, which in a previous post SOMEONE just listed progress, so it's no stand still.
2. I agree with that, I agree that having a place for my family to live is more important then playing Graal. You need to talk to the appropriate people or maybe Storm to display your frustration. Every great Leader should know when their time is up. If Storm doesn't believe his time is up, you should convince him, but having another Active Manager, you can't blow all the blame up his dress.
3. I just recently started playing Graal again, I've been on a few times. But I haven't seen anything more then a overworld and 2 indoor levels!

as well as I never really backed him up. I said as a friend, I HOPE Storm is putting his time and devotion into this project as the Manager. If he's not, well you need to talk to the right persons.

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Old 10-08-2009, 02:18 AM
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Opinion: The paranoia of playercount is misplaced.

Playercount should NOT be dependent on how fast the server comes up.
Premature rebirth of Classic = lack of content = Same Classic players = Same disappointment = Back to where we are right now.

Playercount should NOT be dependent on UN/Era/Other server's players.

Instead, Graal and Cyberjoueurs should be advertising this game and bring in a wave of new players. I have yet to see a single ad banner for Graal.
In addition, it's always been the same players over and over again.
Even the new players end up being old players pretending to be new.

Classic is not entirely responsible for the playercount.
Classic WAS responsible for LOSING playercounts,
but as for getting new players, there's only so much a single server can do.

I believe the problem of playercount is more on a corporate level.

// As for Development dropping out like flies, it's natural for someone not being paid.
I don't see why ANY Developers here need to bother doing any of this at all.
It's purely for our entertainment, and hopefully yours.
The worst part is, players have the rights to complain because they pay for this game.
Though I do think it's good to remind everyone: Developers are players too.
When you complain, please add some constructive criticism for the good of Classic.//
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Old 10-08-2009, 02:38 AM
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Instead, Graal and Cyberjoueurs should be advertising this game and bring in a wave of new players. I have yet to see a single ad banner for Graal.
In addition, it's always been the same players over and over again.
Even the new players end up being old players pretending to be new.
I was thinking that as well. Graal never really has advertised. You always find out from a friend. Or just scrambling across it on accident.
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Old 10-08-2009, 04:10 AM
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I believe the problem of playercount is more on a corporate level.
I agree. It appears that it's economically beneficial to keep the servers up because the subscriptions, for now, probably outpace the costs. The difference is falling and when costs outpace income, Graal will probably be dropped.

Perhaps the sum of differences will be reinvested in something that can compete with everything else on the marketplace. The smart bet would probably be to take the money and run.

A game like Graal is somewhat competing against games that make many billions of dollars in revenue a year. The advantage it once had was that it wasn't a business, but a collaboration of players. To a degree, I suppose it still is, but it's focus has shifted to money. While that should be the focus of a business, Graal, as it stands, has no future as a business. It is merely trying to squeeze every last ounce of revenue it can get before it dies.

I've been around, off and on, since '98, so I'd rather it didn't go this way. It has, though, and until people start looking at reality, there's just going to be a cluster-whatever of confusion about why things are the way they are here.
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:37 AM
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Though I do think it's good to remind everyone: Developers are players too.
When you complain, please add some constructive criticism for the good of Classic.//
Can't blame some people when said people refuse to give up their position despite several requests.

I don't get why people are complaining about the playercount now while a server is trying to rebuild itself. This thread was aimed at the development progress/management.
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Old 10-08-2009, 07:49 AM
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I don't get why people are complaining about the playercount now while a server is trying to rebuild itself. This thread was aimed at the development progress/management.
Because playercount is the underlying factor that attracts developers. If Classic had say, half the numbers it had a few years ago when Tyhm was throwing in his Monty Python and FF3/6 references, I would even throw my hat in trying to help dev.
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Old 10-08-2009, 08:01 AM
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Because playercount is the underlying factor that attracts developers. If Classic had say, half the numbers it had a few years ago when Tyhm was throwing in his Monty Python and FF3/6 references, I would even throw my hat in trying to help dev.
That would be the case if the server was on the list still, which it is not. I just don't see why people care about the past/future playercount when development is the main problem here.
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I just don't see why people care about the past/future playercount when development is the main problem here.
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