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Old 07-04-2009, 02:11 AM
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So is anyone actually going to help him become better, or are you all going to gawk at Elk's trophy?
Well he could always look at Elks trophy and learn from that xD
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Galdor, you can always look at a sentence in Chinese and learn from that, but can you tell me what it means in English?
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:36 AM
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So is anyone actually going to help him become better, or are you all going to gawk at Elk's trophy?
Nope, I totally ignored him.
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:08 PM
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10 minutes or 11, today was last day at school before summer break, so I was bored and did this
as you can tell it's a pretty dirty sketch
the bottom part is mirrored except the shield and the trophy itself
That made me a bit sad/envious.
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Old 07-05-2009, 01:17 PM
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Galdor, you can always look at a sentence in Chinese and learn from that, but can you tell me what it means in English?
completely different, you can study where elk placed the highlights and shadows, what colors he used, etc. There is loads to learn from something like that.
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:19 PM
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Ya, I can see where he put them and only COPY that with this SHAPE, but I don't learn why I have to put it there, and when I go to make a different shape I can't because I don't understand where to put highlights on that.
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Ya, I can see where he put them and only COPY that with this SHAPE, but I don't learn why I have to put it there, and when I go to make a different shape I can't because I don't understand where to put highlights on that.
When you study his cup, you see how you should shade a cup, you can call it copying yes, but normally there is only one right way to shade something, with 1 lightsource.
And of course you won't learn how to shade a square from looking at a cup, but this was about a cup and not about a square was it not.
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Ya, I can see where he put them and only COPY that with this SHAPE, but I don't learn why I have to put it there, and when I go to make a different shape I can't because I don't understand where to put highlights on that.
silence grasshoppah... in time and with some studying you will understand.
I'll send you some good read that is not too boring, and easy to understand
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Ya, I can see where he put them and only COPY that with this SHAPE, but I don't learn why I have to put it there, and when I go to make a different shape I can't because I don't understand where to put highlights on that.
The great art masters learned by studying other works/masters and then coming up with their own innovations and style. That's how art has evolved for centuries. So if you're stuck on something, look at how someone else did it and try to come up with something on your own.
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:06 AM
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The difference is these "great art masters" want to become masters, I just want to be average. So there in for lies, that I would not study a master. I just wanted a description of what I should do, not an image, because images are worth a million words, however their not made of the words described to make them. If you catch my drift.
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:15 AM
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The great art masters learned by studying other works/masters and then coming up with their own innovations and style. That's how art has evolved for centuries. So if you're stuck on something, look at how someone else did it and try to come up with something on your own.
Do not tell us how the great masters learned when you do not know. That's very arrogant.
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:24 AM
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Do not tell us how the great masters learned when you do not know. That's very arrogant.
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:25 AM
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Do not tell us how the great masters learned when you do not know. That's very arrogant.
Yeah smirt don't talk about us great masters when YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW MAN.
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Old 07-06-2009, 01:02 AM
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It's also very arrogant of you to assume he doesn't know what he is talking about.
Given his description of "Great Masters", anyone with an education in art history can - with great ease - see he does not know what he's talking about.
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:28 AM
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And even then, don't you study images and irl objects to see how the light works? I do, looking at a good other drawing gives the same effect, you don't even have to look at how he drew it.
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