What's untouchable, what's not?

[Tigairius]

In my opinion Classic should have:

-Default explosions
-Default horses
-Default hit detection
-Default baddies (although the baddies probably wouldn't be too bad if it went back to default HD)
-Default stats (though if it's able to be replicated well by script, that's fine)
-Simple level layouts

I'm pretty much OK with everything you suggested, Dusty, except for changing explosions. Classic doesn't need some complex particle explosion. I also think players should remain blocking.

I swear, there is no server on Graal anymore that I can just log onto and play normally anymore because they all try to evolve into something and they lose sight of what it was originally.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

I swear, there is no server on Graal anymore that I can just log onto and play normally anymore because they all try to evolve into something and they lose sight of what it was originally.

Kind of like GK?

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Crono

Kind of like GK?

No?

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

No?

Was GK's focus not about the kingdoms? Last I checked people have been too busy staring at eachother's gear in the trading house. When a newbie logs onto GK they don't want to go through an extreme 100 level grind. These are the only two things I can see on kingdoms, as the community I was attracted to back in 2003 disappeared from the server.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Crono

Was GK's focus not about the kingdoms? Last I checked people have been too busy staring at eachother's gear in the trading house. When a newbie logs onto GK they don't want to go through an extreme 100 level grind. These are the only two things I can see on kingdoms, as the community I was attracted to back in 2003 disappeared from the server.

GK's focus has always been economy and kingdoms, not only kingdoms. It still heavily focuses on both as well.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

GK's focus has always been economy and kingdoms, not only kingdoms. It still heavily focuses on both as well.

Sitting around trying to show off your gear is not much of an economy now is it? During the alpha preview GK was obviously intended to be more "Graalian", in it's early stages before kingdoms were released it was a slight upgrade of G2k1. It was about developing your character through real work, not grinding on monsters and not about collecting the most elite gear so that no one has a chance against you unless their WC/AC is at a certain level. Groups of people would plant trees, water them, etc. People mined and crafted their first weapons using different materials in the blacksmith, not...well I don't even know how people get elite weapons anymore.

Like G2k1, the kingdoms on GK were placed to bring parts of the community together so that they could roleplay and interact with the other kingdoms. Given the playercount I can't really be too critical when it comes to kingdoms but over the years to me it just seems like leveling and high-tier items are all GK is about.

So true @ Rufus, you don't need to change what a server is to evolve or change with the times.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

I swear, there is no server on Graal anymore that I can just log onto and play normally anymore because they all try to evolve into something and they lose sight of what it was originally.

Why do you think that nearly every server has had to change?

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Why do you think that nearly every server has had to change?

The reasons are obvious, but the changes I have seen made on Classic in the past few years have been poor ones.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

The reasons are obvious, but the changes I have seen made on Classic in the past few years have been poor ones.

Bad changes made to the server does not mean that that change isn't necessary for the server to stay alive. It's evolution and it's catering for changing player habits and trends on a server type that has a declining lifecycle. That does not mean however, that it is not the same server that it used to be in essence. If that excuse was viable then it could be applied everywhere.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

I'm pretty much OK with everything you suggested, Dusty, except for changing explosions. Classic doesn't need some complex particle explosion. I also think players should remain blocking.

Never said it'd be a complex particle explosion :P