Graal: Nostalgia

[MysticalDragon]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

This idea originated with the idea of bringing back an old version of Classic from 2000 or so, but has transformed into something larger than that.

I was thinking about a server with a collection of backups of old (notable) servers.

I have been collecting backups of servers for a long time, and recently got my hands on a few good ones (Classic from 2000 and Valikorlia from about 2002, thanks Rufus and Kixt). So, I was thinking that if I can get enough completed backups of these sort of servers, why not show them to people? Old players would love to "go back in time" to view the servers they once loved and hold dear to their hearts, and new players would enjoy viewing what Graal used to be.

Here is where the problems come in: content ownership and respecting the current servers. A few servers I would love to put on this all-in-one inclusive nostalgia server include the early version of these servers (1999-2003):

• Classic [have bits and pieces]
• Valikorlia [have bits and pieces] - Have manager's permission
• Babylon
• Unholy Nation - Have manager's permission
• N-Pulse
• Delteria - Have manager's permission
• Maloria
• Doomsday
• Graal 2001
• Graal 3000
• Providence
• Rudora
• Enigma
• Elven Lands [have bits and pieces]
• And more greats...

However, out of respect for what these servers have become today, we would have to make sure they don't steal playercount from the current servers and I will need the permission from each current playerworld owner that would be interested. So, that means, I need an OK from the managers of: Classic, Val, Babylon, UN, N-Pulse, and Delteria.

I don't remember who the last manager of Elven Lands was, or other servers that would be fun to add, but would like their permission as well.

I will also need help collecting the backups of these fine servers. I do not want any GScript2 in any of the levels, because it ruins the nostalgic sense. The levels must be from <= 2003.

I will need your help, if you have backups of any of those servers from the time of 1999-2003, or even bits and pieces, email them to me.

I will also need someone to help by hosting a server to do this on.

Here is how I want it to work:
You will log into the server and get a choice of which server you want to "go back in time" to. There may be multiple versions of one server eventually.

Now, this is nothing set in stone, but I want to hear your guys' opinions/comments/suggestions.

I'm Kinda disappointed that Bravo wasn't apart of this. Bravo was a great classic server even before your time, maybe that's why it was neglected to even be mentioned. Bravo Classic and Bravo Evolved had way more potential then Half the servers you mentioned.

Providence- This was mostly created by ShadowKnight even though Kamuii and and Lyndzey was manager. The server hardly had anything that would even be considered potential. They Had a Giant Ship that was stolen from 2k1 and a Gani Cannon Ball YAY what fun.

Enigma - Its Obvious who ran this playerworld(WarCaptain). What Version of Enigma are you referring to? Pandora? Enigma was only known for graals First Actual Leveling System, and the Wings. After that it Miserably failed.

N-Pulse - What Version do you plan to use with this? I have logged on N-Pulse from time to time and it seems like the only thing that changes are the colors in the tiles? So if you tried to use this server you would be Completely ripping a current playerworld.

Babylon- Another playerworld with what Uniqueness? I'm still trying to figure it out. Without LordHelmut and Alexander you could never even begin to understand there concept.

Maloria(2003is)- Why would you try to re-create Garbage? Ziro is in the process of making a master piece that will blow up any mal in the making.

Graal3000- The name says it all, 3000 levels of pure emptiness.

Unholy Nations- I was apart of this team for several years and still the server remains the EXACT same. Only difference is, they have a GMAP and NPC-Server now.

Elven Lands-Never played but the last manager was Kitty, you can find her on UN from time to time.

Delteria-They revamped the entire server because the current content at the time was garbage. Why Revive trash, when they have took that work and turned it into amazing art.

I see this whole project a waste of time in my opinion, When so many other great servers with Potential should Arise. The current Project(s) you picked failed because of poor quality of work. Other servers failed because of Lack of development. I could possible be jealous that our hard work wasn't recognized, But **** that's life.

<-NEW LIST->
New World
Tempest of Time
Archiac
Bravo Evolved
<-NEW LIST/.->

[Riot]

Originally Posted by MysticalDragon

Delteria-They revamped the entire server because the current content at the time was garbage. Why Revive trash, when they have took that work and turned it into amazing art.

You know, that is not quite how I remember it...

[Cloven]

Originally Posted by Riot

You know, that is not quite how I remember it...

Yeah, if we're talking back that far, Delteria would've been #1 and/or #2 as far as playercount was concerned at that time, lol..

I think I know what he meant, though his chronology was certainly off by a few years.

[James]

Originally Posted by MysticalDragon

Providence- This was mostly created by ShadowKnight even though Kamuii and and Lyndzey was manager. The server hardly had anything that would even be considered potential. They Had a Giant Ship that was stolen from 2k1 and a Gani Cannon Ball YAY what fun

Elven Lands-Never played but the last manager was Kitty, you can find her on UN from time to time.


<-NEW LIST->
New World
Tempest of Time
Archiac
Bravo Evolved
<-NEW LIST/.->

Tempest of Time was never even close to being finished, and GodSpeed and Er1c do not even play anymore.

Providence was Tyne and Malak's server, I don't know the extent of work Kamuii did on it, but I know he was involved.

As for Elven Lands, who the heck is Kitty? The last known managers when it had a high playercount before it was driven into the ground was myself, HEYhost and the other James.

Lastly, I have no idea why NewWorld was dropped, but I worked on it a long time ago and it was never close to being complete except for a few towns here and there. It was an entirely different client that actually had support for layered tiles, and for some reason we still don't have layered tiles on the main client.

I personally would like to see G_Yoshi's server Doragon Koden brought back, I doubt anyone has a backup of that though.