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Old 05-02-2009, 04:52 PM
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Daz's Inactivity should not be affecting the server. He should've been backed up by his "BOSS" a LOOONG time ago. Which further more points to Squirt being incapable of upholding the duties of that position, seeing as him Acting as Gang Admin/Business Admin would be a much more catastrophic site than no one touching it all.
Daz has been given leniency for his inactivity due to irl issues. His duties are being handled until he returns full time. It’s obvious that you think that when we do not submit to every demand you or anyone else have regarding gangs or businesses then nothing is being done at all. Things do get done and decisions are made, but only when they call for it. Not just because Wil Soul or anyone else demands it.


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A step backward in the development and maturity of our Administration. HoudiniMan may have slowed down or brought a stop development to our server, but they sure as hell kept the staff team IN-CHECK. We've taken one giant leap backwards, what brought them here the first time, is the exact same thing the Administration is doing, yet again.
Who can say this is any better than Icarus' or TSAdmin's Era? lol.
A step backwards? I don’t see how Era is any worse than it was when there was a staff change. It’s true there have been some setbacks ever since our Dev Team came into existence. However, it took some time but we are currently back on track and working on things we should have been from the start. As for maturity, ill be honest. I am probably the most mature staff member on Era simply because I am older than everyone else. That is not to say that I have a bunch of immature kids working under me because that isn’t the case. For the most part most of the staff are mature and rarely goof off.


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Here's my opinion. I'll start from the very top of the staff list.

As a manager of a server, the possibilities are endless. When you're in such position there are a lot of things that you can do to further better the server. What I've noticed is that Deo does not use his position to it's full potential. He takes the easy route. Technically, he's doing his job as a manager, but in the most minimal way possible. From my judgment, he hires other people to do the work for him while sitting back just being there to approve and deny certain development proposals made by other admins. You can say that's what a manager is supposed to do, but in my opinion, good managers are a lot more involved with the server.
I resent this. First of all, you are implying I hire people to do work for me when I could do it myself. It’s no secret to anyone that I am not a Developer. I don’t script and I am not especially skilled at level making so obviously I would Hire LAT’s, NAT’s etc. But I have personally only hired a few dev members here and there. I let the Dev Admin decide who to hire unless I feel strongly about a specific person.

Also the fact that I do not develop is bitter sweet in my opinion. On one hand I could contribute more to the addition of all the new content and speed up the process. On the other hand I do not have that holding me back from focusing on my other duties. Because of this all of my focus goes into managing the staff team as a whole, making sure the server continues to move forward and that everyone is doing the job they were hired to do. Making sure everyone gets along and that my RC stays drama free. As a past Admin you should know that this isn’t always as easy as it sounds. It isn’t always as simple as asking someone to do something and getting results or a yes or no answer. Sometimes I have to bring out a side of me that I don't like to show. But it's required sometimes in order to make sure things go according to plan.

What else am I having all these people do for me? Even though there are other departments given these specific jobs, I still handle any issues regarding scams, items, biz & gangs if people come directly to me and I am not busy or no one else is on. You don’t work with me and you hardly ever speak to me so I think your opinion of me is flawed.


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When Squirt was first hired to the staff team, I couldn't help but laugh at him. I had no idea who this guy was yet he was handed GP Chief. As time went by I've come to respect him more. I was told that he did a lot of work to release instruments so he seems dedicated to me. I just don't think he should be anything more than a GP. What worries me is that if Deo for some reason gets fired or steps down, Squirt would be next in line for manager. It's a logical assumption. I do hope that if Deo is put in a situation where he is no longer manager, Bell can be convinced to put someone more qualified into the position.
You are not giving him enough credit. Squirt is a capable person, and has learned a whole lot ever since I brought him on as a GP. He learns more and more with each day and is deserving of his current position.


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I lost a lot of respect for Chris when I saw his corruption at first hand. After explaining to Deo what happened, nothing was done. After submitting a support ticket, Chris lied to Tig. Cool! Apart from that, he's a great developer. I just don't think he should be in the position to control Era's future. His post about wanting to focus on non-pk related ideas really made me lose all hope for Era's future.
I loathe corruption, and I do not stand for it. I am very strict when handling any situation regarding it. This is a major difference between myself and some of the past Admins. I’m not really sure what you are talking about with the Chris situation and me ignoring you. If it has to do with a robot then I took care of it as soon as I got a pm from you. As for him being in charge of “Era’s future”, that isn’t totally accurate. While he does have most of the control on new content, it is not a dictatorship. He gets feedback from Me, Squirt and lots of other staff about any new ideas or any concepts regarding the “New” Era and takes all of it into account. I think you should appreciate someone like Chris a little more. He has done TONS of work for Era in the amount of time he has been staff, and not a lot of people give him credit for this. And despite what others may think he is probably one of the most mature kids I have ever seen in his age group.
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:26 PM
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I lost a lot of respect for Chris when I saw his corruption at first hand. After explaining to Deo what happened, nothing was done. After submitting a support ticket, Chris lied to Tig. Cool! Apart from that, he's a great developer. I just don't think he should be in the position to control Era's future. His post about wanting to focus on non-pk related ideas really made me lose all hope for Era's future.

I like Graal, and I like Era. It makes me pretty mad knowing that the wrong people are in charge of this server. The direction it's going in is going to make Era a whole different place than what it really should be. I guess nothing can be done except wait and hope that either sense is knocked into the administration, or that they are replaced.
Now that is just being closed minded. More often than not, majority of the players are idling on Era. Non-pk things simply allows them to stand still and enjoy it more. Everyone seems to be whining that Era is a music server now or some other b.s. I mean when cars came out was everyone like OMG, Era is not pk anymore, it's nascar! If you enjoy pking so much, DO IT. You are not forced to play music or be near an instrument on Era. GO get a party going and go kill music players if that will please you. I think the idea of non pk items is awesome! On babylon, i loved using the swatter, on UN i loved the pointless items to use, etc.. It gets boring to only have two options 1. pk 2. idle
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:12 PM
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Daz has been given leniency for his inactivity due to irl issues. His duties are being handled until he returns full time. It’s obvious that you think that when we do not submit to every demand you or anyone else have regarding gangs or businesses then nothing is being done at all. Things do get done and decisions are made, but only when they call for it. Not just because Wil Soul or anyone else demands it.
I am not at all attacking Daz for his inactivity nor stampeding you because you gave him "leniency". My main point is, while he is gone, his duties are unfulfilled. Events are no longer regularly hosted, Gangs are not at all monitored, and if anything gang-related is not functioning correctly, the leaders have to wait for DAZ to appear and rectify the problem. Hence my quarrel, which leads to another mal-quality in our PSA. Squirt taking over for Daz would be a counter-productive rectification, seeing as he isn't qualified nor prepared to have control Gangs/Businesses. Which also leads to a conclusion of the fact he isn't "fit" to do more than be a "GP". I always pictured a PSA as being qualified to handle EVERY job individually under his/her jurisdiction. Meaning a PSA must be a qualified: ETA, GPC, Gang Admin, Business Admin and etc. Which is why you were unfit for the job as well, Deophite. Squirt attends to the GPs because that is the only thing he knows how to do, which signifies Frankie's point, he's fit for nothing more than a GP. We don't need someone to be wasting the potential of the job by "learning", when there are others who initially could've done the job to its fullest potential. Ex. "Daz". Your favour of Squirt has given more than the benefit of the doubt to acquire that position. Who else would've given it to him?



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A step backwards? I don’t see how Era is any worse than it was when there was a staff change. It’s true there have been some setbacks ever since our Dev Team came into existence. However, it took some time but we are currently back on track and working on things we should have been from the start. As for maturity, ill be honest. I am probably the most mature staff member on Era simply because I am older than everyone else. That is not to say that I have a bunch of immature kids working under me because that isn’t the case. For the most part most of the staff are mature and rarely goof off.
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Why is it not? Chris Vimes isn't exactly the pinnacle of maturity, neither is Squirt and I can go down the line naming them. So yes, the maturity level is LOW.


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But I have personally only hired a few dev members here and there. I let the Dev Admin decide who to hire unless I feel strongly about a specific person.
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You just made Frankie's point for him. You don't hire others to do your job for you, in retrospet... the Management should be MUCH more deeply involved with the Developmental-Aspect of the server than any other. Seeing as that is the back-bone, you're more of an Advisor, than a Manager. You are supposed to thoroughly review and go over every Developmental Addition to your team. Hiring of Developers should be a tag-team procedure. Meaning having a strong central idea of what a "good" developer is. Chris Vimes himself isn't even a "developer", so to speak. He is an NAT. Angel was a "Developer", Daz is a "Developer", Sales is a "Developer".
Yes, a Manager doesn't need to KNOW how to Develope, but he does in-deed need a central idea of every job on the server. Meaning to know whats a "good" job and whats a "bad" job. Not relying on those hired to tell you.
You should be the one telling them whats right or wrong. You aren't PWA, you don't just sit back and affiliate when necessary, your affiliation with the workings should be full-time. You're not on a at-need basis, you're supposed to always be there. Take "Streety" for example, UN's Manager. Always on the scene, and he isn't much of a Developer either. Not in the scripting department atleast. But yet, he always on the developmental scene as well as the player-related. Watching and stepping in when necessary. HE runs server, not Administration, they are what they should be, "assistance".

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Also the fact that I do not develop is bitter sweet in my opinion. On one hand I could contribute more to the addition of all the new content and speed up the process. On the other hand I do not have that holding me back from focusing on my other duties. Because of this all of my focus goes into managing the staff team as a whole, making sure the server continues to move forward and that everyone is doing the job they were hired to do. Making sure everyone gets along and that my RC stays drama free. As a past Admin you should know that this isn’t always as easy as it sounds. It isn’t always as simple as asking someone to do something and getting results or a yes or no answer. Sometimes I have to bring out a side of me that I don't like to show. But it's required sometimes in order to make sure things go according to plan.[/QUOTE]

According to who's plan? Is the question.




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You are not giving him enough credit. Squirt is a capable person, and has learned a whole lot ever since I brought him on as a GP. He learns more and more with each day and is deserving of his current position.[/QUOTE]

You are giving him too much credit because he in your eyes is a version of you. Squirt knows nothing of every job under his jurisdiction besides GP.
Sounds deserving, doesn't it? Shouldn't he have learned before he got the job? PSA isn't a "training" job, if I may say so.




I loathe corruption, and I do not stand for it. I am very strict when handling any situation regarding it. This is a major difference between myself and some of the past Admins. I’m not really sure what you are talking about with the Chris situation and me ignoring you. If it has to do with a robot then I took care of it as soon as I got a pm from you. As for him being in charge of “Era’s future”, that isn’t totally accurate. While he does have most of the control on new content, it is not a dictatorship. He gets feedback from Me, Squirt and lots of other staff about any new ideas or any concepts regarding the “New” Era and takes all of it into account. I think you should appreciate someone like Chris a little more. He has done TONS of work for Era in the amount of time he has been staff, and not a lot of people give him credit for this. And despite what others may think he is probably one of the most mature kids I have ever seen in his age group.[/QUOTE]


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