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Old 04-29-2009, 07:27 PM
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Yes, they agreed to the job. Yes, they should be prepared to work on stuff they might not be thrilled with. Yes, we need a better structure and plans.

But lets be honest here. What motivation do dev people have to do their job? No pay. No thanks. *****y bosses. *****y players. Here, I'll give an example: Manager: "Hey, I think this is what classic needs, so spend your free time working on it and have it done by saturday, no excuses." Really? If the dev person doesn't like the idea, or has stuff to do irl, what is motivating them to actually spend their free time doing it? Maybe the dev person likes castles, and you're asking them to make a cave. Not gonna work.

Yes tats, they signed up for the job and should be expected to get the work done in a timely manner. But really, what motivates these people to spend their free time working on graal stuff? They get nothing out of it (other than the satisfaction of their work being released and enjoyed by the public, but of course this only happens if they want to work on that project,) except another job assignment. What motivates a GC to host in their free time? When events are fun to watch or host, thats what. When players are *****ing the entire time or you're hosting a lame event, you really don't have that much motivation. So what motivates dev people? Do they find staring at the graal editor to be fun? Do they find spending hours typing g-script lines fun? I can't imagine it is for most people.

Point is, people are motivated to work when its fun, or at least if they get paid. Should they have signed up for the job if they weren't gonna stick it out through the tough times? Perhaps not. But you can't expect people to work hard when they get absolutely nothing out of it, whether they have some responsibility or not.

Gah, there I go rambling again.
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:12 PM
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So ok no motivation to work, nothing gets produced. So lets just give players powers and let them go do whatever and hope that they make stuff we can use.

Great. Thanks for making it clear glad.
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:22 PM
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Yes, they agreed to the job. Yes, they should be prepared to work on stuff they might not be thrilled with. Yes, we need a better structure and plans.

But lets be honest here. What motivation do dev people have to do their job? No pay. No thanks. *****y bosses. *****y players. Here, I'll give an example: Manager: "Hey, I think this is what classic needs, so spend your free time working on it and have it done by saturday, no excuses." Really? If the dev person doesn't like the idea, or has stuff to do irl, what is motivating them to actually spend their free time doing it? Maybe the dev person likes castles, and you're asking them to make a cave. Not gonna work.

Yes tats, they signed up for the job and should be expected to get the work done in a timely manner. But really, what motivates these people to spend their free time working on graal stuff? They get nothing out of it (other than the satisfaction of their work being released and enjoyed by the public, but of course this only happens if they want to work on that project,) except another job assignment. What motivates a GC to host in their free time? When events are fun to watch or host, thats what. When players are *****ing the entire time or you're hosting a lame event, you really don't have that much motivation. So what motivates dev people? Do they find staring at the graal editor to be fun? Do they find spending hours typing g-script lines fun? I can't imagine it is for most people.

Point is, people are motivated to work when its fun, or at least if they get paid. Should they have signed up for the job if they weren't gonna stick it out through the tough times? Perhaps not. But you can't expect people to work hard when they get absolutely nothing out of it, whether they have some responsibility or not.

Gah, there I go rambling again.
your testimony proofs how people have changed during the years, where in graals early days people would love to make content, nowadays no one is motivated. Could it be the greed of mankind?
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:25 PM
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Point is, people are motivated to work when its fun, or at least if they get paid. Should they have signed up for the job if they weren't gonna stick it out through the tough times? Perhaps not. But you can't expect people to work hard when they get absolutely nothing out of it, whether they have some responsibility or not.
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Seriously, you have ****-all for content and you're not exactly pulling in new developer talent, angling for prestigious titles should be your last concern.
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