Suggestion Thread: Let's get down to some specifics.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Shadow87

But you rather post on here instead? Is your time even worth it?

You make it sound as if harm is being done by me posting. If you don't agree with my ideas, big deal. My reasons for doing so are quite obvious. I can also say the same thing to you: is the time you spent posting toward me worth it? It's a pretty stupid question. Obviously we both think so or it wouldn't get done.

Drama

There's that word again. People seem to love to use it any time they're unwilling to read an argument or even a simple discussion from an impartial point of view. To someone not taking it personally, these things are often productive.

[Cetellic]

It is productive, I have read nearly every post and like it and all... I was just askin if anyone here was willing to make it, otherwise what's the point.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Cetellic

I was just askin if anyone here was willing to make it, otherwise what's the point.

Question marks are good things. I think I'll start putting question marks at the end of normal sentences so it can look equally retarded? As for what you said, rather than asked, the point is to have the ideas in the minds of multiple people, particularly developers? Whether or not they make it isn't even relevant to getting the topic discussed to see if it's worthwhile?

[Shadow87]

I never said I didn't agree with you Kat, All i meant by saying that is that if you are going to spend time posting your ideas here, why not help classic out by playing it and trying to make those ideas real, instead of just listing them here. If you cared enough to put them here, you should care enough to play classic.

And drama, its a good word to use for a lot of petty crap that happens here, because it is all drama, it isn't an excuse to not debate or argue. There is just to much talk here, and not enough getting done on the game.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Shadow87

I never said I didn't agree with you Kat

That makes absolutely no difference to anything, unless you simply wanted me to know, but ok.

All i meant by saying that is that if you are going to spend time posting your ideas here, why not help classic out by playing it and trying to make those ideas real, instead of just listing them here.

If I'm going to be doing programming, I have my own project outside of Graal to spend that time on. I've also already stated, plenty of times (well, not all in this thread, I think), why doing ANYTHING on Classic is a nightmare.

If you cared enough to put them here, you should care enough to play classic.

In your opinion. I have zero interest in actually doing anything on the server as far as "playing" goes. I can't imagine why anyone does.

And drama, its a good word to use for a lot of petty crap that happens here, because it is all drama, it isn't an excuse to not debate or argue.

That's my point. You and others dismiss the arguments/discussions as unimportant, and label it "drama", as you just did again. People want changes, but don't want any sort of conflict, it seems. When this blindness is met with reality, it then becomes "drama" to them.

[fragman85]

yignoreme? :[

[Cetellic]

Originally Posted by -Ramirez-

Question marks are good things. I think I'll start putting question marks at the end of normal sentences so it can look equally retarded? As for what you said, rather than asked, the point is to have the ideas in the minds of multiple people, particularly developers? Whether or not they make it isn't even relevant to getting the topic discussed to see if it's worthwhile?

why you gotta moan so much - whinin over people saying "drama" and now grammar errors LOL. It's pretty cool to look retarded though ; ) question marks at the end of normal sentences is gunna take it to a new level, alright what else? Spelling errors and 1337 speech YESH!!! Now I know everything I need to make the most reasonable response!!!

w311 w3 knw it wurth wh1le s0 y dscus.

Had to make it kind of short, typing like that takes alot of brain power!

Originally Posted by fragman85

yignoreme? :[

SHHHH DUDE!!! I'm tryin to look cool for all the 8 year olds!

[Shadow87]

So okay Kat, I get what you are saying, it makes sense, you just really do not like classic, but you want to continue posting here. Okay.

And I don't like conflict? heh, you obviously do not know me.

[BlackSolider]

Tats went out guns blazing from faq admin.

Respect.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Cetellic

why you gotta moan so much - whinin over people saying "drama" and now grammar errors LOL. It's pretty cool to look retarded though ; ) question marks at the end of normal sentences is gunna take it to a new level, alright what else? Spelling errors and 1337 speech YESH!!! Now I know everything I need to make the most reasonable response!!!

w311 w3 knw it wurth wh1le s0 y dscus.

Had to make it kind of short, typing like that takes alot of brain power!

There was a more significant part of what you quoted, but since you chose only to focus on this, I'll comment on it. It's quite disrespectful to other people to force them to look through your laziness. The point isn't to insult you, it's to ease communication for the future. You might try looking at it objectively.

Originally Posted by Shadow87

Syou just really do not like classic, but you want to continue posting here

I don't like the server under the name "Classic" at present. I loved what it used to be, as in any point in time before the NPC Server. If I can do something tolerable to help get it back to a good point, I have no problem doing that. Posting here to change minds is something, but given the general lack of maturity and open-mindedness here, that's probably pretty pointless. Regardless, I still try.

And I don't like conflict? heh, you obviously do not know me.

You're right, I barely know anything about you or your past, but that isn't relevant. What I said was a generalized comment on my experience with various people and these situations, which seemed perfectly applicable to you in this case.


Uh oh, I'm pointing things out that people don't already see! It's "drama"!!! It's a negative thing and not constructive at all! Let's all just be endlessly ignorant of everything because informing people is "drama". That sounds like a great way to live. That wasn't directed at any one person, btw.

[Cetellic]

Originally Posted by -Ramirez-

There was a more significant part of what you quoted, but since you chose only to focus on this, I'll comment on it.

dont act like I ignored it, I presented my statement in uber 1337-hard to read speech fashion which shows like uber disrespect to you in that case! So I think it was YOU who ignored ME!!!

[Rufus]

Man I wish someone would go through this crap and delete the petty arguments, they're kind of removing the actual focus of the thread and camouflaging posts that are relevant suggestions. The staff shouldn't have to go through everything just to get to note a suggestion someone has.

[jacob_bald6225]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Man I wish someone would go through this crap and delete the petty arguments, they're kind of removing the actual focus of the thread and camouflaging posts that are relevant suggestions. The staff shouldn't have to go through everything just to get to note a suggestion someone has.

Big whoop, wanna fight about it?

[StrykerTFFD]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Man I wish someone would go through this crap and delete the petty arguments, they're kind of removing the actual focus of the thread and camouflaging posts that are relevant suggestions. The staff shouldn't have to go through everything just to get to note a suggestion someone has.

Even arguments show how people feel about certain things. May not be desirable to go through them but they should be.

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Man I wish someone would go through this crap and delete the petty arguments, they're kind of removing the actual focus of the thread and camouflaging posts that are relevant suggestions. The staff shouldn't have to go through everything just to get to note a suggestion someone has.

There is a suggestion forum and a suggestion NPC on the server if people really want to get their Idea known out there.

Though it may look like back and forth rambling, they do bring up some valid points. Better than a randomly oriented map