Suggestion Thread: Let's get down to some specifics.

[MysticX2X]

It should be a priority actually. You believe the problem with GC now lies within the GC team and tickets, when the GC team isn't even the case and the tickets are playing a minor role. If other servers already have a higher tech events system, why do they want to play Classic events which run slow and take a very long time and aren't even aware of most event rules?

You seem to ignore the big picture here but you haven't played other servers so I realize where your ignorance comes from.

[maximus_asinus]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

It should be a priority actually. You believe the problem with GC now lies within the GC team and tickets, when the GC team isn't even the case and the tickets are playing a minor role. If other servers already have a higher tech events system, why do they want to play Classic events which run slow and take a very long time and aren't even aware of most event rules?

You seem to ignore the big picture here but you haven't played other servers so I realize where your ignorance comes from.

I've discussed this with Nighty, and he has no plans on updating this archaic system. Things like summoning should have been phased out as soon as we got the NPC server. We have the technology, why aren't we utilizing it?

[Kill]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

why do they want to play Classic events which run slow and take a very long time

That is indeed very true.
Someone like Rob who was a Classic regular left the server for Era because he doesn't like how long events on Classic take - mostly due to the set up and the summoning of accounts which is pretty much a waste of time if you think about it.

I'm in favour of a technological advance - Classic's system is outdated, and sure, it would save you guys a lot of hassle and cure the problem with summon bias by someGCs... but if you change it to look like everyone elses' -- What makes it Classic?!

The only other problem I could see with using a 'join event' system would be the fact we're now shifting away from player-run events onto robot-like events. I mean, seriously guys... What would differentiate you GCs hosting from a robot?!

Also, the GCs have been pampered quite a bit lately though bringing up valid points that I myself brought up back when I was a GC, yet Night didn't listen to me. I'd be surprised if he changes his mind now.

[-Ramirez-]

Most importantly, regarding the use of more intelligent event operation designs, GET RID OF MASS MESSAGING. Whoever decides to make such changes, do NOT forget this, and ignore Night if he tries to tell you no! This is the single most antiquated thing the server still does and it needs to DIE, promptly.

[Kill]

Originally Posted by -Ramirez-

Most importantly, regarding the use of more intelligent event operation designs, GET RID OF MASS MESSAGING. Whoever decides to make such changes, do NOT forget this, and ignore Night if he tries to tell you no! This is the single most antiquated thing the server still does and it needs to DIE, promptly.

Actually I don't agree with you at all Kat.
Mass Messaging is crucial to keep any sort of competitiveness in events.
Tickets are currently useless, Classic is the only server that uses Mass Messaging to show winners -- If this was removed, do you think it would have any positive outcomes other than it being easier for you (since you won't have to open up their messages on RC, assuming this is why you want them disabled).

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by Kill

Actually I don't agree with you at all Kat.
Mass Messaging is crucial to keep any sort of competitiveness in events.
Tickets are currently useless, Classic is the only server that uses Mass Messaging to show winners -- If this was removed, do you think it would have any positive outcomes other than it being easier for you (since you won't have to open up their messages on RC, assuming this is why you want them disabled).

since the writing ability of the members of the GC team run from simian to block of wood, I don't see why you'd think it's a good idea to have them constantly mass messaging.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Kill

Actually I don't agree with you at all Kat.
Mass Messaging is crucial to keep any sort of competitiveness in events.
Tickets are currently useless, Classic is the only server that uses Mass Messaging to show winners -- If this was removed, do you think it would have any positive outcomes other than it being easier for you (since you won't have to open up their messages on RC, assuming this is why you want them disabled).

You, like Night (at least in the past), are blind to the possibilities. You simply do NOT have to remove messages involved with starting an event. The point is that there's absolutely NO reason for it to be done via mass messages. It's the most irritating thing imaginable.

Also, what Kevin (lmao, I think... account names are so annoying) said is right. The messages are pretty much useless as of now anyway. I'd wager that a decent portion of the players don't even CARE about the literary aspect of the messages as well. I certainly don't want to read a novel if I'm trying to get into an event quickly. However, as I said, messages do NOT have to be removed.

[Kill]

Originally Posted by -Ramirez-

You, like Night (at least in the past), are blind to the possibilities. You simply do NOT have to remove messages involved with starting an event. The point is that there's absolutely NO reason for it to be done via mass messages. It's the most irritating thing imaginable.

I'm already in favour of updating the current systems in terms of starting an event, however I'm against removing Mass Messages to announce the winner for reasons I have already stated. I think there was a misunderstanding from your part.

The messages are pretty much useless as of now anyway. I'd wager that a decent portion of the players don't even CARE about the literary aspect of the messages as well. I certainly don't want to read a novel if I'm trying to get into an event quickly. However, as I said, messages do NOT have to be removed.

Actually you'd be surprised.
Once again, you're relating it back to getting INTO an event whereas I'm talking about the announcing of winners.

Originally Posted by -Ramirez-

Being a GC is already a job. Adding pointless requirements to it just makes it less likely that people will stay doing it and want to do it in the future. You may not see it as a job, but others do. I'd be surprised if all of the current GCs actually WANT to host as much as used to be required by Night when the server was somewhat "healthy".

You see, this is why you are not a GC. You have the wrong attitudes about being a GC - those that think like this should not be a GC because they should enjoy the fact they're hosting to entertain players from all over the globe; they're the only staff team that are holding this server intact since there is little to nothing else to do. Anyways, GCs should be hosting as much as possible - If they do not enjoy the job, they can always leave, there has always been a high demand of players wanting to be a GC. I actually think Night's removal of the weekly times led to the eventual inactivity of the server, if you'd like me to explain I will.

Also, implying that people who have no interest in reading a novel in an irritating mass message just to enter an event are illiterate is just a pointless insult, or maybe ignorance of the word.

You took what I said the wrong way. I meant some people actually enjoy reading, and do not mind reading a novel if it is that long (Gladius is the only GC that writes long paragraphs anyway).

So basically, in a nutshell:
You are unhappy that Mass Messages are the form of communication used by the GCs simply because you are too lazy to close each message from your RC.

I'm sorry, but that is very selfish and not taking into consideration other factors such as competitiveness and other peoples' opinions of the matter; and failing to see that what you believe is your opinion only (as I'm sure no one shares your view).

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Kill

however I'm against removing Mass Messages to announce the winner

Again, blindness. Do you honestly think that it's not possible to retain this as well?

Once again, you're relating it back to getting INTO an event whereas I'm talking about the announcing of winners.

You referenced both once. I honestly didn't notice that the first was about ending messages, but it changes nothing.

You see, this is why you are not a GC. You have the wrong attitudes about being a GC - those that think like this should not be a GC because they should enjoy the fact they're hosting to entertain players from all over the globe; they're the only staff team that are holding this server intact since there is little to nothing else to do. Anyways, GCs should be hosting as much as possible - If they do not enjoy the job, they can always leave, there has always been a high demand of players wanting to be a GC.

That was my whole point. Such restrictions on what a GC needs make it difficult to fill the positions well. You may think those things are necessary, but they're really not, particularly now.

Players are more likely to just want to use the tools the GCs have available than they are to actually WANT to host for the "fun" of it.

You took what I said the wrong way. I meant some people actually enjoy reading, and do not mind reading a novel if it is that long (Gladius is the only GC that writes long paragraphs anyway).

I read exactly what you said, and what I informed you of was two possible reasons for you saying it. You may have failed to express what you were intending, but that's your problem. (Uh oh, that wasn't worded in a way that Barney would like, I must be being an ass!!!111oneoneone Hardly, just direct.)

You are unhappy that Mass Messages are the form of communication used by the GCs simply because you are too lazy to close each message from your RC.

This is exactly why I hate them, and not only on RC. (Aside from the laziness aspect, which is just yet another pointless insult.) Nobody should HAVE to deal with the garbage. That's undeniable logic. You're just afraid of losing something that's, for reasons I can't even comprehend, important to you due to your ignorance of what's possible.

I'm sorry, but that is very selfish and not taking into consideration other factors such as competitiveness and other peoples' opinions of the matter; and failing to see that what you believe is your opinion only (as I'm sure no one shares your view).

Seriously. Think about possibilities before you type. Absolutely nothing is lost, only changed to suit a wider range of personal preferences. If you even try to say that it's affecting YOUR preference, good luck justifying that. Whether it's an internal window message of some form or a PM, it still requires the same reaction from you, whereas it gives me and others who hate mass messages the satisfaction of not having to deal with them.

I found it amusing that you try to say that this is solely based off of my opinion and nothing else. You're truly blind/ignorant (of several things, apparently) if you can't see the benefit of giving players options that reduce annoyance. Whether or not it's annoying to you is irrelevant. It's obviously POSSIBLE and probably a lot more likely than you think for it to be annoying to others.


This kind of opposition to nothing more than a display change is absolutely pathetic. "Oh no, don't change what I see, just because it's been that way for a long time!!! It makes no difference if it functions exactly, or almost exactly, the same, it LOOKS DIFFERENT!! AHHH" Please. Get over it. It's ridiculous.

[Shadow87]

Well its clear Classic GC have nothing on speed compared to other server ETs, but think about it, why do you think we are still GC and they are all ET? Game Coordinators still have to coordinate everything, Events team people just kinda have to kick back and enjoy the show because everything is click click! clack clack nuggah!!