In game Gani Editor

[Admins]

I've worked a little bit more on this, it can handle now ATTACHSPRITE and ATTACHSPRITE2 (e.g. for zone/kingdom ganis):

[Pimmeh]

Originally Posted by Stefan

I've worked a little bit more on this, it can handle now ATTACHSPRITE and ATTACHSPRITE2 (e.g. for zone/kingdom ganis):

Shameless bump.

Stefan, are you gonna upload this script too?

[cbk1994]

It would be a lot nicer if you got rid of the Toon theme. Just use GuiBlue

[fragman85]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

It would be a lot nicer if you got rid of the Toon theme. Just use GuiBlue

No.

[TSAdmin]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

It would be a lot nicer if you got rid of the Toon theme. Just use GuiBlue

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this line:

style = $pref::Video::defaultguistyle;

just making it take your own, custom GUI style which would differ from player to player? Otherwise, in-script, editable to just not have a style that is anything other than the default blue?

[Darklux]

Originally Posted by Stefan

It looks quite good, may be we could improve it together to make it a nice online- gani editor ?

I guess it would have been your job at the first place,
its cool that atleast someone out of the playerbase has published a good coded ganishop.

I hope that a level editor will be released, too, sometimes.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by fragman85

No.

No.

Originally Posted by TSAdmin

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this line:

style = $pref::Video::defaultguistyle;

just making it take your own, custom GUI style which would differ from player to player? Otherwise, in-script, editable to just not have a style that is anything other than the default blue?

It does, but Graal comes with only the "Toon" style, and I have never downloaded another (they are all really glitchy, plus they're only used in a few cases; generally Login/Skills server are the only time I see them).

[Unkownsoldier]

How come this new version is not working for me?

[linkrulz4]

This is great news! With this, due to me having to play Graal on my Mac, I'll be able to hold out until V6 comes out. I hope to see an on-client Graal Editor in the future, as I miss my developer tools from when I still had a PC.

[Skatertay]

Thats a very well done tool....!

Nice 1 JV!

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Stefan

I've worked a little bit more on this, it can handle now ATTACHSPRITE and ATTACHSPRITE2 (e.g. for zone/kingdom ganis):

I know im bumping an old as hell thread but is the script still around there? Because a up to date online gani shop is a nice thing and if theres more features to have it sounds like something I could use lol

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

I know im bumping an old as hell thread but is the script still around there? Because a up to date online gani shop is a nice thing and if theres more features to have it sounds like something I could use lol

It's in the first post, and Stefan's version on the 3rd (should probably use that).

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Stefan

I've worked a little bit more on this, it can handle now ATTACHSPRITE and ATTACHSPRITE2 (e.g. for zone/kingdom ganis):

I meant by this post, I shouldve quoted and made a quick connection to it, sorry for the misunderstanding i meant this update. because Ive yet to see this that's all

[DustyPorViva]

I'd love to see a functionality that 3ds Max 7 uses to select multiple objects: Shift+click adds an object to the selection, and ctrl+click removes it. For example, I could click on a body sprite, then shift+click on the head, then shift+click on the shield, and then use a button to attach all the selected sprites into one?

[Fulg0reSama]

That seems a bit overcomplicating for ganiing dusty, I mean it sounds good on paper but how would that work on the real thing and from how that process would go it seems like the old fashioned way would go faster.

I'd like to state that ive found two things odd.

1. No dragging function works once you place down the sprite onto the board, unless you gotta hold down some button than I couldn't catch it.
2. Once you place down a sprite it wouldn't allow me to delete a selected sprite, Because you know when you gani there's sometimes a chance that you may find a way to make the gani look better but you need a different sprite to do it so hell you'd delete. That's the irritating part about this, Other than that I like this so far.

Would like to know if maybe im missing something or what

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

That seems a bit overcomplicating for ganiing dusty, I mean it sounds good on paper but how would that work on the real thing and from how that process would go it seems like the old fashioned way would go faster.

Here's an example from my experience. On Bomy Island we use 17-ish different attributes, and 15 of those are solely for the body and clothing. Generally if I want to create an animation, I have to edit 16 different things for every single frame I want, and that'd just be for the character. With Dusty's idea/suggestion I'd be able to couple all of the body and clothing together if I just wanted to move those, or copy all of the head frames to move them down all at once. It would make for a much faster, less frustrating, and a lot more fluid creation.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Here's an example from my experience. On Bomy Island we use 17-ish different attributes, and 15 of those are solely for the body and clothing. Generally if I want to create an animation, I have to edit 16 different things for every single frame I want, and that'd just be for the character. With Dusty's idea/suggestion I'd be able to couple all of the body and clothing together if I just wanted to move those, or copy all of the head frames to move them down all at once. It would make for a much faster, less frustrating, and a lot more fluid creation.

Okay.. That now actually helps me get a better idea of how this could go. It looks like a good idea. A visual would help me better perhaps.

Now let me ask are you saying like...

Classification of sprites?

Example: bodyformonsterherename-1 to... 57.

And for crazy irony they're all same the same type.

You'd simply throw them into that classification, Than by selection you could perhaps mousewheel through them and throw it out right there?

2 hours of consciousness and my mind's gears are still running slow.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

That seems a bit overcomplicating for ganiing dusty, I mean it sounds good on paper but how would that work on the real thing and from how that process would go it seems like the old fashioned way would go faster.

How is it overcomplicating? It's simplifying matters immensely. In fact, the only way to attach sprites right now as far as I know is by manually typing it out in the gani text file.

However, as far as visualizing it goes... it's hard to explain. Basically it lets you select and control multiple objects. Like I said, I select(click on) the body sprite in the gani. I can move the body around while it's selected. However, if I have a gani I have to sit and move each and every sprite in the gani by themselves. This is cumbersome. However, most of the time programs let you drag a box around the canvas and it selects all objects within the box. That's cool, BUT, it can also be inaccurate. That's where ctrl+click and shift+click come into play. It lets you control what's in the selection by removing and adding objects manually. So say I have a sprite with a body, head, hat and shield. I want to treat the head, hat and body as one object for later manipulation(IE as one object via attachsprite). I drag a box around the sprite and select everything, but that includes the shield. I don't want the shield as part of the selection, so all I have to do is ctrl+click the shield and it gets removed from the selection. Now I can bound the rest as one object via attachsprite. In the end this makes working with many sprites much easier.

I also suggest that along with selecting multiple sprites, the ability to move/delete/manipulate multiple sprites without having to attach them together. It's akin to working with individual pixels in pixel art, where each pixel is a 'sprite' in this case. If you drew out a simple face, you don't want to sit and have to select each and every pixel and move them individually. You want to highlight the whole face and move it. In graalshop, we have to do the former -- select each object in the gani and move them individually. It's a painful process.

[Fulg0reSama]

Oh **** okay now i understand. Im sorry. I have not been thinking it out completely sorry.

Last time i make comments when ive only been awake for 2 hours

[Fulg0reSama]

Has anyone else noticed the two things i listed? And apparently in stefans todo list in the most up to date gani editor (online) was support attaching

[Admins]

The gani editor is on testbed, but I'm not sure if someone has already worked on it.

[Fulg0reSama]

Id like to test out the editor but... It wont fire and /graalshop doesn't work

its Shared/GaniEditor correct?

[SKJF91]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Id like to test out the editor but... It wont fire and /graalshop doesn't work

its Shared/GaniEditor correct?

try ':graalshop'

[DustyPorViva]

It's ':graalshop open' I think.

[Fulg0reSama]

Dusty is right, And also that is a highly unusual command to open anything lol

[darkcloud667]

ive used it.
its pretty cool :o
seemed to work fine

[DustyPorViva]

I was actually surprised at how well it worked. However, there were some gripes:
> not being able to drag to the left to delete sprites
> not being able to drag the play triangle to change frames

[Fulg0reSama]

That and the quick sprite function is broken

[Deas_Voice]

bump!

latest version: (so u dont need to scroll thu the whole thread )

Originally Posted by Stefan

Ok here it is. There might still be some bugs, but it gives at least some feeling about what can be possible: you can zoom, and also move the background like in the old gani editor. Dragging of sprites is also working fine. The ATTACH thing still needs to be added.

Beside uploading the script you also need to upload the images from graalshopgfx.zip, and give "rw levels/ganis/*.gani" rights to the npcserver.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

latest version: (so u dont need to scroll thu the whole thread )

And going to the last post of the thread (at the time of writing) or a random post in the middle of page 5 in a year from now is better how?

[Deas_Voice]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

And going to the last post of the thread (at the time of writing) or a random post in the middle of page 5 in a year from now is better how?

you tell me.

[devilsknite1]

Extremely old thread, but I along with plenty others have been having problems with the external editor and this one doesn't seem to be working. Any updates on it?

[Spikedude]

Originally Posted by devilsknite1

Extremely old thread, but I along with plenty others have been having problems with the external editor and this one doesn't seem to be working. Any updates on it?

Yeah does anyone know if this has been updated recently? Us mac-users can't do Graalshop, and the latest version of the in-game I've used still has a number of annoyances.

[Spikedude]

In case anyone found this thread and is looking for updates:
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...47#post1726547