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Old 03-04-2009, 05:54 PM
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Can you get a poll up in the poll house today regarding people's continents? I'd like to see if this is accurate. Part of me realizes that there is a large European playerbase on Classic at current, but at the same time there is also a large American playerbase. The current playerbase doesn't entirely reflect the potential playerbase, but I'd like to see the results anyway based on curiosity.
Why? Does this accomplish anything other than to satisfy your personal interest? If you want to see who plays from where log on and do a poll yourself.
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Old 03-04-2009, 05:58 PM
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Why? Does this accomplish anything other than your personal interest? If you want to see who plays from where log on and do a poll yourself.
Wow hahaha, you are really not able to identify what a possible poll regarding player location could possibly show, or is this just an excuse to reply to me?
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Old 03-04-2009, 06:01 PM
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Wow hahaha, you are really not able to identify what a possible poll regarding player location could possibly show, or is this just an excuse to reply to me?
What your poll will show is that Storm is right and its probably a 50/50 split. No point wasting staff time to verify something that has already been said.
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Old 03-04-2009, 06:03 PM
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What your poll will show is that Storm is right and its probably a 50/50 split. No point wasting staff time to verify something that has already been said.
Yes, because we all pull figures out of our ass and base decisions upon that. It also takes an excruciating amount of time and effort to go set a poll, in an already existing poll system, to more accurately represent the data you're assuming.
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Old 03-04-2009, 06:08 PM
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Yes, because we all pull figures out of our ass and base decisions upon that. It also takes an excruciating amount of time and effort to go set a poll in an already existing poll system to more accurately represent the data you're assuming.
Chances are he isn't pulling anything 'out of his ass'.

The way I see it, the majority of the people in this thread (other than one or two of you) continually try to undermine Storm at every turn. Some of what is said is deserved, but you have Rufus here trying to argue about statistics which are probably valid, for no other reason than to discredit what Storm had to say.
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Old 03-04-2009, 06:26 PM
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Chances are he isn't pulling anything 'out of his ass'.

The way I see it, the majority of the people in this thread (other than one or two of you) continually try to undermine Storm at every turn. Some of what is said is deserved, but you have Rufus here trying to argue about statistics which are probably valid, for no other reason than to discredit what Storm had to say.
When someone claims a statistic is as good as "pulling [something] out of [someones] ass" it is a metaphor used to convey assumption. "50/50" is hardly an accurate representation any demographic on any game ever -- it's an obvious assumption and many people will feel as though it is inaccurate. "50/50" isn't even a statistic that has been rounded off accurately and in an argument structure, conclusions should not be made entirely from assumptions where statistics can be provided. This is very basic logic here.

I have already stated that my suggestion is out of curiosity (which you've already addressed but are now changing your mind, inconsistencies?) but at the same time it can prove an assumed statement to be a true or false representation. I have simply asked him to do what every other game development team, manager, or even business would do before making decisions based upon geographical locations, and that is research facts. If you believe that research is inappropriate or is a waste of time, you might want to go let the word out to every marketing team in the world, otherwise you're just attempting to argue with me and it is embarrassingly weak.
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:05 PM
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When someone claims a statistic is as good as "pulling [something] out of [someones] ass" it is a metaphor used to convey assumption. "50/50" is hardly an accurate representation any demographic on any game ever -- it's an obvious assumption and many people will feel as though it is inaccurate. "50/50" isn't even a statistic that has been rounded off accurately and in an argument structure, conclusions should not be made entirely from assumptions where statistics can be provided. This is very basic logic here.
If you're so big on statistics, could you provide some insight on the demographics for some of the other MMORPGs, because to my knowledge, most (popular) MMORPGs have seperate servers for both Europe and North America (and most don't allow for interaction between the two continents).

As long as I've known Storm (maybe not known, I don't talk to him on a regular basis), he has never once pulled a number out of the air, he has always had some statistic to go on. Maybe it isn't exactly 50/50, but it most likely is something close to. If the average was 80/20, then I could see basis for an arguement.

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I have already stated that my suggestion is out of curiosity (which you've already addressed but are now changing your mind, inconsistencies?).
I was trying to be polite, as to not outright accuse you of attacking Storm, or trying to discredit him. I guess it was a waste of time since I made the accusation a few posts later.

As for the rest, Storm can't really dictate where the server should be moved to. Stefan has control of that, and he moved it for a reason (not sure on his reasoning, but it was most likely cost).
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