Make it non-gold - Page 4

Stephen · #**121** 02-15-2009, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FenixTheBanished

Seriously, be a little more mature, yeah pojo jumps to wild conclusions, but dont be an outright jerk, great way to promote staff respect, dignity, and understanding.

You think it's more sensible to question my actions - those to support my fellow staff, who are are all working to provide new updates and new content for players such as yourself and PoJo - than to question PoJo who has consistently in the last two threads berated Maroku, who in this specific case was up until 3AM on his own time working on the aforementioned new content?

You need to get your priorities in check.

FenixTheBanished · #**122** 02-15-2009, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

You think it's more sensible to question my actions - those to support my fellow staff, who are are all working to provide new updates and new content for players such as yourself and PoJo - than to question PoJo who has consistently in the last two threads berated Maroku, who in this specific case was up until 3AM on his own time working on the aforementioned new content?

You need to get your priorities in check.

Clearly, going to college, working part time which is really a full time job, juggling bills, rent, etc on my own and living on my own and youre one to say get MY priorities straight? Please, considering all that is needed for the Zormite project to be done is for Tycho do finish his part of it because mine is already done, so please your attempt at making yourself seem so righteous and protective is meager and makes you look even more pious than before. Seriously you can berate Pojo all day, but have some respect period, whether its for the forums or just for people in general, trying to make him look stupid by saying he should shut up just confirms and makes you more of a jerk than we all previously thought. Hell, atleast Tig is polite when he berates people, you're just a jerk.

Stephen · #**123** 02-15-2009, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FenixTheBanished

Clearly, going to college, working part time which is really a full time job, juggling bills, rent, etc on my own and living on my own and youre one to say get MY priorities straight? Please, considering all that is needed for the Zormite project to be done is for Tycho do finish his part of it because mine is already done, so please your attempt at making yourself seem so righteous and protective is meager and makes you look even more pious than before. Seriously you can berate Pojo all day, but have some respect period, whether its for the forums or just for people in general, trying to make him look stupid by saying he should shut up just confirms and makes you more of a jerk than we all previously thought. Hell, atleast Tig is polite when he berates people, you're just a jerk.

A person who donates their time volunteerly should not be berated for any reason. That extends to all staff on GK, not just Maroku.

This situation was explain on the forums to PoJo for everyone to read. He clearly has nothing but malicious intent. If you have a problem with how I have reacted please direct your attention privately.

xXziroXx · #**124** 02-15-2009, 12:18 PM

I'm with PoJo when it comes to Maroku, and I don't care if he does stuff now or not, since most of the time I see him behave like either an ass, or being completely ignorant to everyone except those he might consider a friend.

Sky · #**125** 02-15-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

I'm with PoJo when it comes to Maroku, and I don't care if he does stuff now or not, since most of the time I see him behave like either an ass, or being completely ignorant to everyone except those he might consider a friend.

I fully agree 110[percent].

Darklux · #**126** 02-15-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Switch

For a Gold server, I'm sure people are more prone to jump at them.

This is something else compared to classic worlds.

On classic worlds a talented, but not too skilled developer can get a job because there are other people to train him - I doubt that the gk team can invest that amount of time.

Further, developing for gk is quite difficult. Its a whole different way to create levels, the coding is probaply quite hard and special, ganis and graphics are very good and complex - it's not like opening your editor and hacking some levels together for UN.

Ravenblade1979 · #**127** 02-15-2009, 04:55 PM

I have to disagree with everyone who's against maroku. I mean he's no Sam but he still busted his ass to make sure we had our items and that we were hosting. Hell he would work with me on the bigger events I was doing too.

He's trying his best and the only thing that you can do is berate him. That tells you the type of mentality you have. Actually from experience I can tell you that there are always a group of people who don't like staff and will berate them at any chance they get.

If it were me I would be happy that he's making more content for the server. He doesn't need this **** as he is doing this voluntarily and doesn't need to impress you people at all. If he was getting paid by cyberjourers to do the job then I could see the berating being founded but until then lay off of him.

xXziroXx · #**128** 02-15-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

I have to disagree with everyone who's against maroku. I mean he's no Sam but he still busted his ass to make sure we had our items and that we were hosting. Hell he would work with me on the bigger events I was doing too.

He's trying his best and the only thing that you can do is berate him. That tells you the type of mentality you have. Actually from experience I can tell you that there are always a group of people who don't like staff and will berate them at any chance they get.

If it were me I would be happy that he's making more content for the server. He doesn't need this **** as he is doing this voluntarily and doesn't need to impress you people at all. If he was getting paid by cyberjourers to do the job then I could see the berating being founded but until then lay off of him.

I'm entitled to dislike anyone I want without having to explain myself, thank you very much, sir. Not that it's relevant, but he's also the only staff member on Kingdoms I dislike, and based on the attitude he has so often shown, I'd say it's well founded.

Craigus · #**129** 02-15-2009, 06:30 PM

Maroku does alot for GK we are lucky to have him working on new events/other things for GK, he is also a very active hoster when he is not busy creating a new event. I really do not understand all the strong views against him when he dedicates as much time as he does to improving the game.

Ravenblade1979 · #**130** 02-15-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

I'm entitled to dislike anyone I want without having to explain myself, thank you very much, sir. Not that it's relevant, but he's also the only staff member on Kingdoms I dislike, and based on the attitude he has so often shown, I'd say it's well founded.

Too true on you disliking whoever you want. I have seen both sides of maroku and yes he can come off with a bad attitude but he doesn't mean too. How do you think we seem to him with some of our english phrases. he may mistake those for bad and think we having the bad attitude.

@All: just be happy that he's making stuff for events. if he didn't care he wouldn't be busting his ass to get these done.

Sky · #**131** 02-15-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

@All: just be happy that he's making stuff for events. if he didn't care he wouldn't be busting his ass to get these done.

Erm, isn't that what he signed up for?

I'd be more then willing to help so he doesn't have to "bust his ass", but like Ziro said he's a jerk to whoever is not his "friends".

Ravenblade1979 · #**132** 02-15-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sky

Erm, isn't that what he signed up for?

I'd be more then willing to help so he doesn't have to "bust his ass", but like Ziro said he's a jerk to whoever is not his "friends".

Then don't like him. Thats up to you.

At least awknowledge that he's doing work on events like you already have.

BigBear3 · #**133** 02-16-2009, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Then don't like him. Thats up to you.

At least awknowledge that he's doing work on events like you already have.

If you actually read what Sky wrote he stated that Maroku is only "creating stuff for new events" because it's what he has to do. I think you running around on these forums is a plague. Please leave.

P.S. Nothing against Maroku. Good guy.

Tigairius · #**134** 02-16-2009, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBear3

If you actually read what Sky wrote he stated that Maroku is only "creating stuff for new events" because it's what he has to do. I think you running around on these forums is a plague. Please leave.

P.S. Nothing against Maroku. Good guy.

Maroku doesn't have to make events. His job is to keep his team in order and keep events hosted. He is creating events (yes, he is actually doing the development aspect of events as well with scripting, levels, etc) out of the kindness of his heart. Some of his ideas are quite nice and his hard work is greatly appreciated.

He learned how to script so he can help make events in the future and is still learning. He scripted a lot of his most recent event.

MiniOne · #**135** 02-16-2009, 10:29 AM

Just remember guys most of the people who do the scripting for GK and host events don't get paid, which means it may not be their highest priority to work on graal. They may have to work to pay for essentials.

Just thank them for giving up their time to help the server, since they don't get paid for it, they do this for your enjoyment

Ravenblade1979 · #**136** 02-16-2009, 05:04 PM

@Pat: Aww you big softy lol

@MiniOne: Well GK is like Zone in this way here. If a staff member shows you bad attitude or anything like that then they are hated by a group of people. It happens on any server. I would just think that people like Sky would be beyond the whole attitude thing but apparently not.

xXziroXx · #**137** 02-16-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne

Just thank them for giving up their time to help the server, since they don't get paid for it, they do this for your enjoyment

That's the biggest load of bull I've heard in a long time. If they volunteer for it, they have certain responsibilities to hold up their end of the bargain. If not, they should be removed.

Note that I'm speaking in general and not about anyone specific, but it's still true.

Ravenblade1979 · #**138** 02-16-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

That's the biggest load of bull I've heard in a long time. If they volunteer for it, they have certain responsibilities to hold up their end of the bargain. If not, they should be removed.

Note that I'm speaking in general and not about anyone specific, but it's still true.

I must stop you here for people do have lives outside of graal and as they volunteered to do this they aren't always able to be on. Again as I said it would be a different story if cyberjourers were paying them to do it but they aren't.

It can't be helped if people have responsiblities outside of this game and it seems that alot of people understand that. My question is why can't you?

Should Maroku and all the other EM's just drop their responsibility outside of graal because you think they should live up to their responsibilities. They are doing their hardest to bring events and to host them while trying to live their own individual lives.

I can understand your side of things. Yes they volunteered for these positions and with them comes responsiblity but on the flip side of things only so much can be done. Hosting more depends on playercount then anything and with school/university/college classes going on most people aren't able to get on until the evening or even at all. So if your on during the day and there's nothing being hosted then take a look at the server...how many trials are on compared to the paying members.

I know I went off of at least 20 gold members on before I hosted any events. As Pojo would argue with me those months I didn't host there were barely anyone on. I wasn't going to host for 3 afk gold members and like 5 active trials. Just wasn't worth my time.

I mean have you even hosted yet on GK? Do you know that EM's have rules to follow. That there's a certain amount of gold members they lookout for and if the number just isn't there then they probably won't do it.

As for Maroku's attitude to non-friends. i am pretty sure that there are people he don't like and won't treat right but I have seen him with new people and other non-friends and he was fine with them.

xXziroXx · #**139** 02-16-2009, 07:53 PM

Are you blind or just stupid, raven? I clearly stated that I wasn't talking about this situation in particular, or even Graal Kingdoms. I also pointed out that volunteer work doesn't come with less responsibilities then it would otherwise, deal with it.

Ravenblade1979 · #**140** 02-16-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Are you blind or just stupid, raven? I clearly stated that I wasn't talking about this situation in particular, or even Graal Kingdoms. I also pointed out that volunteer work doesn't come with less responsibilities then it would otherwise, deal with it.

Can't you read. I agreed with you on this but went on to explain that people have lives they must live too.

Tigairius · #**141** 02-16-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne

most of the people who do the scripting for GK and host events don't get paid

None of us get paid.

jonnyrocks2 · #**142** 02-17-2009, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

None of us get paid.

Yyup, its all volunteer work, and do it on your own time.

Darklux · #**143** 02-17-2009, 05:17 PM

Why will GK never be Classic?

Because they still make SOME money with it - in opposite to zero money, when it would be classic.

Ravenblade1979 · #**144** 02-17-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Darklux

Why will GK never be Classic?

Because they still make SOME money with it - in opposite to zero money, when it would be classic.

See now thats the truth in a nutshell

CharlieM · #**145** 02-17-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

See now thats the truth in a nutshell

Well not really because they have to pay to play classic now to, there actually wouldn't be any harm in moving it down anymore other then probably most of the people who play GK now have lifetime classic.

MiniOne · #**146** 02-18-2009, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CharlieM

Well not really because they have to pay to play classic now to, there actually wouldn't be any harm in moving it down anymore other then probably most of the people who play GK now have lifetime classic.

they could move it down and move zodiac up since zodiac has a bigger player count but the problem with that is, is zodiac is a player made server whilst GK is made by stefan (i believe) so moving a player server up would mean the creator of the server should get paid.

MajinDragon · #**147** 02-18-2009, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne

they could move it down and move zodiac up since zodiac has a bigger player count but the problem with that is, is zodiac is a player made server whilst GK is made by stefan (i believe) so moving a player server up would mean the creator of the server should get paid.

Lol @ Zodiac being gold

MiniOne · #**148** 02-18-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MajinDragon

Lol @ Zodiac being gold

xD zodiac has a better playercount then GK has

Ravenblade1979 · #**149** 02-18-2009, 04:36 PM

How about THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

Is that clear enough. If they wanted it classic it would have been done ages ago. They are still making enough money to keep it gold.

cyan3 · #**150** 02-18-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne

xD zodiac has a better playercount then GK has

Thats because all the people with life-time classic are playing Zodiac.

BigBear3 · #**151** 02-18-2009, 08:52 PM

Delteria... Graal's final stand.

Ravenblade1979 · #**152** 02-18-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cyan3

Thats because all the people with life-time classic are playing Zodiac.

Zodiac sucks

Obs311 · #**153** 02-19-2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cyan3

Thats because all the people with life-time classic are playing Zodiac.

I'm not.

Sky · #**154** 02-19-2009, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cyan3

Thats because all the people with life-time classic are playing Zodiac.

I'm not either. :O

MiniOne · #**155** 02-19-2009, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cyan3

Thats because all the people with life-time classic are playing Zodiac.

I have life time classic i don't even bother with zod anymore... I just play zone even though i have 3 accounts with life time classic. The reason zodiac has more players then GK is merely because its being made better and more productive updates are being used on zodiac then with GK.

CABAL49 · #**156** 02-19-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne

I have life time classic i don't even bother with zod anymore... I just play zone even though i have 3 accounts with life time classic. The reason zodiac has more players then GK is merely because its being made better and more productive updates are being used on zodiac then with GK.

Better? No, GK still is superior in it's design. However; Zodiac has been more productive in the past couple years. Also due to the fact it is free greatly increases it's player count. But you need to keep in mind we just went through management change, who have already set a time for their next update release.

Darklux · #**157** 02-19-2009, 11:23 PM

Most important:

Going classic didn't help Graal 2001.

Sky · #**158** 02-20-2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Darklux

Most important:

Going classic didn't help Graal 2001.

^ co-sign. ;0

DustyPorViva · #**159** 02-20-2009, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Darklux

Most important:

Going classic didn't help Graal 2001.

I've tried to make this point many times before.
Going non-gold isn't going to magically save GK.

But, on the otherhand, G2k1 went UC for a few years then came back non-gold for a little while... and while it was up it was pretty much never updated.

Googi · #**160** 02-20-2009, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Darklux

Most important:

Going classic didn't help Graal 2001.

And that was when the gold/classic divide meant a lot more than it does today.