Make it non-gold

[Ravenblade1979]

Schetti not everyones parent will pay the price for subscription. Just because yours does doesn't mean anothers will. MiniOne is right on this. Not alot of parents are willing to throw that much money on a online game when they would rather see their kids out of the house having a life.

If your dad doesn't care then good for you but don't call someone a liar based on your own experience. Its pretty biased.

MiniOne also pointed out economic crisis. Again he's right. Its everywhere and just because you live in a house that have parents that bring in a good amount of money doesn't mean that everyone else is in the same boat. Its tough out there and there's more important things then graal. Food, rent, clothing, utilities, payments etc.

I could go on and on about this but you seemed to have formed your own opinion. I really really hope that you don't feel the economic crunch like alot of the other people have. You will find out that sacrificing stuff just to play a online game isn't worth it.

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Schetti not everyones parent will pay the price for subscription. Just because yours does doesn't mean anothers will. MiniOne is right on this. Not alot of parents are willing to throw that much money on a online game when they would rather see their kids out of the house having a life.

I don't really see why this effects anything because you could use PayByCash or also buy subscriptions using SMS which most "kid" have access to.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by cyan3

I don't really see why this effects anything because you could use PayByCash or also buy subscriptions using SMS which most "kid" have access to.

Which most "kid" don't pay for, so you're still going to need permission.

[James]

Originally Posted by cyan3

I don't really see why this effects anything because you could use PayByCash or also buy subscriptions using SMS which most "kid" have access to.

They may have access to it, but I'm pretty sure their parents would kick them in the ass for it without permission. It's not their money to spend.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by James

They may have access to it, but I'm pretty sure their parents would kick them in the ass for it without permission. It's not their money to spend.

No kid with access to SMS is going to be punished for using it, that's a risk the parents take when they buy them a phone and pay the bills for it.

[James]

Originally Posted by kia345

No kid with access to SMS is going to be punished for using it, that's a risk the parents take when they buy them a phone and pay the bills for it.

Oh really, so you wouldn't be upset if your child racked up a $500 phone bill from buying gelats? It's different if they ask, but if it was done without my knowledge I'd be pretty angry. Please don't say, "Maybe they shouldn't have text messaging." Besides, I wouldn't let my kid have a cell phone if he/she wasn't paying for it or working it off somehow. I'd like to be able to trust my child.

[CharlieM]

Originally Posted by James

Oh really, so you wouldn't be upset if your child racked up a $500 phone bill from buying gelats? It's different if they ask, but if it was done without my knowledge I'd be pretty angry. Please don't say, "Maybe they shouldn't have text messaging." Besides, I wouldn't let my kid have a cell phone if he/she wasn't paying for it or working it off somehow. I'd like to be able to trust my child.

Explain how someone is going to buy 500 dollars worth of Gelats on one bill. Isnt that like 50 000 Gelats

[James]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

Explain how someone is going to buy 500 dollars worth of Gelats on one bill. Isnt that like 50 000 Gelats

It's not really the amount that matters, it's the fact that it could be done, and the principle of the matter. Even if it was $50, wouldn't you be upset your child didn't ask for permission?

[kia345]

Originally Posted by James

Oh really, so you wouldn't be upset if your child racked up a $500 phone bill from buying gelats? It's different if they ask, but if it was done without my knowledge I'd be pretty angry. Please don't say, "Maybe they shouldn't have text messaging." Besides, I wouldn't let my kid have a cell phone if he/she wasn't paying for it or working it off somehow. I'd like to be able to trust my child.

Kids rack up phone bills all the time, and stupid parents pay for them.

[James]

Originally Posted by kia345

Kids rack up phone bills all the time, and stupid parents pay for them.

I was just replying to the fact that you said no kids get punished for using SMS in a manner that it wasn't intended for. It's on the plan to text message, not to buy crap with. I know companies love the fact that they can charge over SMS just for those unsuspecting parents. I'd never let my kid have a cell phone on my plan again. I just find your logic unreasonable. No one gets punished for it? Please.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by kia345

Kids rack up phone bills all the time, and stupid parents pay for them.

mine ranges from 25-30 dollars a month. nothing big. my mom and i share a plan.

[Ravenblade1979]

Originally Posted by kia345

no kid with access to sms is going to be punished for using it, that's a risk the parents take when they buy them a phone and pay the bills for it.

qft

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by kia345

No kid with access to SMS is going to be punished for using it, that's a risk the parents take when they buy them a phone and pay the bills for it.

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

qft

I have no idea about your guys' parents, but my parents would be very upset if I ran up a huge phone bill using my SMS service in order to pay for Graal.

[James]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

qft

Spoiled.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by MiniOne

Agreed. Unless of course they are planning on spending the money they make on something which will progress graal and extend it to new heights then I'm fine paying $60 (Aus Currency xD) a year for it, but only if they are actually planning on spending the money productively towards Graal, E.g. getting a better source (the source is already quite good) or something alone the lines of that

If Not then make the price like drop a little (We are in a bad economic situation and a lot of the children's parents may not be so willing to allow their children to through $40+ dollars towards a game in a time like this)

I wouldn't be okay paying $60 in the current state. MMORPG's need the massive multiplayer part to be successful. Cyberjoueurs has racked up enough dough to keep Graal going, but I'm almost sure it's not that much of a real profit. If Graal was less money (or the old "per month" "per 3 month" "per 6 month" "per year" to make it seem like less money, while also making it a bit less) then I'm sure more people would subscribe, bringing in even more cash, and also more people that will tell their friends who will tell their friends, etc.
Good point about the economy though, especially for people in college paying that much (though I'm not all too sure about that, seeing as I'm still only in 8th grade).

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

You will find out that sacrificing stuff just to play a online game isn't worth it.

A good point. And there are much better-presented games to entertain yourself with to buy, even ones for free.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by Switch

MMORPG's need the massive multiplayer part to be successful.

If you want to complain about the massively multiplayer aspect of Graal that isn't there, you have to take this much further than the forums specifically for Graal Kingdoms. No server is massively multiplayer and none of them ever will be. On a more personal basis, the only reason I play is because my computer cannot handle anything else. And I can barely run Graal.