Radical idea?

[salesman]

It's really hard to judge someone when you can't see what's going on behind the scenes, and it's also too early to judge based on progress/outcomes.

[papajchris]

did you just come out of know where like today to harrass era? Just curious

[TheSpude_P2P]

Originally Posted by papajchris

did you just come out of know where like today to harrass era? Just curious

Harass Era? And since when does it matter WHEN I decide to "harass" Era? Just curious.

[papajchris]

You come out of know where, and probablly know nothing of Deophite or any of the projects being done atm. No one expects the auctions to fix the economy 100%, but short term it does have benefits. And Deophite has been manager for I think a month now? And alot has been done. Whether it would have been done or not w/o him? not sure; but hes not abusing, hes active, he pays attention and has more than enough qualities required to being a successful manager.

[TheSpude_P2P]

You should read the above posts before you repeat basically what others have said.

[DazJenova]

Originally Posted by TheSpude_P2P

I doubt the current Era staff team even know how to fix Era's problems. They probably don't even know how bad Era is right now.

How did you work that out? we acually have quite a strong team now that tig/deo are in charge. Also Angel returning is a big + aswell as Chris who is i must say an awesome scripter. We know what problems lie on era and that's why we are creating "Improved era" to get rid of all the problems that currently lie on era. We're making era more player based so the more ideas players give the better we can discuss them and work on them. So far it's going good on Era Dev.

Also Squirt and Deo are acually doing a fantastic job, i see squirt on taking people's stuff (Example: DH) had a tool he didn't need so squirt took it away, squirt's always on managing his GP's and is very mature. I've known him since graal2001 and he's sound as hell and by far is the most qualified for GP Admin. On the other hand Deo is also by far the most qualified for manager because he is "outside" of era population which is a good thing, he makes sure everyones in line doing what they should do and even helping try fix the ecomony "which i don't think can be done with it being so screwed up" but still puts in the effort on trying to fix that huge problem. I've also known Deophite for a very long time "oldbie sparres as myself" but that doesen't mean that i get special treatment or anyone else. I've got limited rights to help GC with Gang/Biz levels/scripts and also am working on a project myself with the help of a gfxer who's working on Era Dev also now that Era News was complete. Don't assume nothings being done because alot is being done you just can't see it because you're not on RC.

[Frankie]

I appreciate Deophite's effort and willingness to fix Era's economy. The only problem is that what he's doing isn't going to work at all. There was a big thread regarding the auctions and I've made it quite clear that using the auction house to try and remove money from the economy will do more harm rather than good.

It doesn't look too good right now. If he's using ineffective methods right now, who knows what will be done in the future. Nobody wants to listen to me or admit that I'm right when it comes to pointing out flaws in Era's economy. I guess I'm not respected enough to be listened to. Although I don't really care how respected I am, it's Era's loss if nobody wants to listen to me.

Deophite being outside of Era's population only partially makes him a good manager. He has good control over the structure of the staff team and what they do but he's extremely inexperienced with Era.

[Shotoo2]

Someone blow up the bridge again.

[zim5354]

Originally Posted by Frankie

It doesn't look too good right now. If he's using ineffective methods right now, who knows what will be done in the future. Nobody wants to listen to me or admit that I'm right when it comes to pointing out flaws in Era's economy. I guess I'm not respected enough to be listened to. Although I don't really care how respected I am, it's Era's loss if nobody wants to listen to me.

Its not that no one is listening to you, the problem is those that are listening to you cant do anything. None of the players that were active in your time doubt your experience, but the current administration is unwilling to listen to experenced players who both know how Era works and what is wrong with it.

Originally Posted by DazJenova

We know what problems lie on era and that's why we are creating "Improved era" to get rid of all the problems that currently lie on era.

This right here shows you have no idea what is wrong with Era and are incapable of fixing it. Every time a "new" Era was released it failed, if it did not fail it died in construction. Ningnong destroyed the server, Jenn's version failed, Rick failed, Snake tried to revive it and for some time it was working before it tanked. Remember all the managers after Chrisz, remember all the promises of a "New Era" and remember all the times it failed. You have to notice a trend.

Originally Posted by DazJenova

Also Squirt and Deo are acually doing a fantastic job, i see squirt on taking people's stuff (Example: DH) had a tool he didn't need so squirt took it away

That's not a fantastic job, that's an average job. Exactly what Squirt should be doing nothing more, nothing less. The real question would be how did DH get the tool and was his ability to receive such items removed?

Originally Posted by Frankie

he makes sure everyones in line doing what they should do and even helping try fix the ecomony "which i don't think can be done with it being so screwed up" but still puts in the effort on trying to fix that huge problem.

So you admit his actions are futile, yet you still try to defend them? The only thing that can fix Era's economy is a reset and better moderation (and removal of some staff) to ensure it doesn't get destroyed again.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by LordSquirt

Only limited people even have rights to set attributes.

Anyone with rights to even a level script could easily spawn items on Era as it is.

[Freudian_slip]

Era's economy will always be ****ed, honestly. It just needs to go back to where money means very little and all weapons are bought in shops. I'm not saying let the economy go to ****, but the only reason it matters really right now is because weapons arent in shops to buy. The idea of this server is fun, not hard labor over a keyboard.

I personally like what Era's currently doing with businesses, making them be auctioned off and they have to pay weekly bills or they lose it. To me, thats really neat and I hope all the businesses are turned to that system.

[TheSpude_P2P]

Rare items are the big problem. It's true, all items need to be sold in shops and correctly priced rofl. Player owned business's are basically a lottery win. Of course all of these fixes need to be made and then the server will need to be RESET. Deo needs to stop working on current Era and fix the big problems and RESET the server. (And Deo needs to get the **** off Unholy Nation.)

[BlueMelon]

Idea: A gun return system.
There is a room, with a dude you talk to the dude and a gui comes up saying all your guns then a trade in or cancel button. The trade would be for alot less then the gun.
That would work?

[salesman]

Make a "pawn shop" as I think Demisis suggested(?). Players are able to sell back items for 50-75% of their original price...This prevents item value from dropping too low

[Frankie]

question:

how did squirt remove rights from DH if squirt is the gp chief and DH is a dev? lol

talk about unneeded rights

[salesman]

Originally Posted by Frankie

question:

how did squirt remove rights from DH if squirt is the gp chief and DH is a dev? lol

talk about unneeded rights

I just assumed he was talking about some kind of GP tool or something

[DKH89]

yeah it was a gp tool sorta

[Andre2006]

Originally Posted by BlueMelon

Idea: A gun return system.
There is a room, with a dude you talk to the dude and a gui comes up saying all your guns then a trade in or cancel button. The trade would be for alot less then the gun.
That would work?

Thanks alot! It took me 5 minutes to even open the picture and it was just a crappy one D: <3

[CharlieM]

Originally Posted by Shotoo2

Someone blow up the bridge again.

This, and put all the special shops down there also.

[DazJenova]

Originally Posted by zim5354

Its not that no one is listening to you, the problem is those that are listening to you cant do anything. None of the players that were active in your time doubt your experience, but the current administration is unwilling to listen to experenced players who both know how Era works and what is wrong with it.



This right here shows you have no idea what is wrong with Era and are incapable of fixing it. Every time a "new" Era was released it failed, if it did not fail it died in construction. Ningnong destroyed the server, Jenn's version failed, Rick failed, Snake tried to revive it and for some time it was working before it tanked. Remember all the managers after Chrisz, remember all the promises of a "New Era" and remember all the times it failed. You have to notice a trend.



That's not a fantastic job, that's an average job. Exactly what Squirt should be doing nothing more, nothing less. The real question would be how did DH get the tool and was his ability to receive such items removed?



So you admit his actions are futile, yet you still try to defend them? The only thing that can fix Era's economy is a reset and better moderation (and removal of some staff) to ensure it doesn't get destroyed again.

I was using DH as an example and i do know what's currently wrong with era thank you very much, i know everytime a new era is created it either failed or never got finished because i've played as long as frankie back in the day with meph/diaz in angel/delph era, so don't tell me i have no idea what problems lie on era because i've been staff for 4 years and i know what problems lie on the server. Doing auctions and such woudn't fix the ecomony that's totally true but atleast it removes abit of money because the ecomony how it is now with all the duping incident can't be fixed. You don't see how squirt does his job aswell, yes he does all he's required to do but he does extra things to help out aswell because you haven't got RC to witness it.

[Freudian_slip]

I think the auction was more of an adding **** to the game thing than anything else. Personally I'd liek to see ethier a "sethat" feature after the reset or ALL hats being sold in shops, unless they are ment for a particular gang/business.

[BlueMelon]

Sethat would ruin Eras style

[Freudian_slip]

How would it ruin Era's style? It's a damn hat. Let people put whatever they want on top of their head. Not like I couldnt just edit a head and shove a hat on top of it anyway.

But whatever, even if you just put them ALL in different hat shops I'd be happy.

[Andre2006]

Yeah put them in the shops :/

[Frankie]

hats should work like heads.
you can set it to whatever you want, and make hats personalized to you that PRs/GPs can upload.

ever since Jenn turned hats into items, they for some reason have been a huge part of Era's economy. not exactly in a positive way either. back when Andy uploaded a lot of "rare" hats, he would give like 5 of them to the creator (recolor-er is more like it) and people would flip out over these hats and start offering huge sums of money for them.

[Freudian_slip]

Like i said, even if they put them all in a shop I'd be happy. Honestly, if anything that would be more Era style than anything if you bought them in shops but not for ridiuclous sums....
The current hat shops suck and offer ****ty hats.

[BlueMelon]

If they were all in shops it would be nice.
But the customizable option i dont like, Hats that are on UN and come to era I dont think is very nice..
Like a goat hat? on era? Naw.

[Shotoo2]

Originally Posted by Frankie

hats should work like heads.
you can set it to whatever you want, and make hats personalized to you that PRs/GPs can upload.

ever since Jenn turned hats into items, they for some reason have been a huge part of Era's economy. not exactly in a positive way either. back when Andy uploaded a lot of "rare" hats, he would give like 5 of them to the creator (recolor-er is more like it) and people would flip out over these hats and start offering huge sums of money for them.

Hats being items wasn't a bad idea. Making rare hats and giving them to certain people was a bad idea.