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Old 02-08-2009, 09:31 PM
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dont get me wrong darlene isnt a bad mod
but people start dancing on her nose and dont respect her
so she has to make an example...
maybe than more people "play" graal instead of spamming the forum

to the topic ... i prefer mods which are "old" like darlene "sorry for the old but i hope you know what i mean XD"
younger people care to much about friendship and try to act cool
and iam sure if we vote the mods we get people like elizabeth ...
preeeetty sure no one would vote for me... why would i be a voting choice in the first place?


if we voted for moderators, darlene would pick a number of people that she believes would be suitable for the job, and put them as the choices. she wouldn't pick random people, like me.
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:33 PM
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It's not "fault logic" when you get outside of your home server shell and play on a decent amount of servers to understand how the majority of the playerbase feel about these forums. Moderation is a large contributing factor as to why people do not post here.
But to say that all unregistered users don't post here because of Darlene, Sam, and Unixmad is still completely ridiculous. There are 1000+ people on right now. You're telling me that 960 people, less the trials, have this hatred of the moderators, and don't post here because of that.

I would say that most of the registered users don't post because (a) they don't really have a reason to, and (b) they bought a subscription to play the game, not to the get on the forums.

Look, I see stupid rules here. Not being allowed to post URLs? Stupid. Not being able to quote somebody without writing something in return? Pretty stupid. Being forbidden from complaining about the rules? Oh, wait. Anyways, yeah, not a cool rule.

But, there comes a point when most people would realize that, hey, what I'm doing isn't working towards achieving the outcome I want. Maybe I should change my approach? That's all I'm trying to say.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:02 PM
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:11 PM
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:15 PM
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I thought they added the iphone players and graal players together to get that number...to make it look like more people play the game than they really do.
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That number has nothing to do with how many people are on Graal, there's about 489 people online, going by the RC serverlist.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:21 PM
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I thought they added the iphone players and graal players together to get that number...to make it look like more people play the game than they really do.
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That number has nothing to do with how many people are on Graal
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't people playing Zone on the iphone?
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:28 PM
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That number has nothing to do with how many people are on Graal, there's about 489 people online, going by the RC serverlist.
My point still stand, even if there aren't 1000+ people online. Rufus is saying that are roughly 440 people, less trial accounts, that do not log on to these forums because of the moderators.

The important part of that post, though, was the whole change of approach thing...
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't people playing Zone on the iphone?
Do those people have access to the Graal forums? No.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:34 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't people playing Zone on the iphone?
No it's not the same Zone, I believe it's a dedicated one for the iPhone.

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That's with the iPhone players included, i.e the ones playing adrenaline poker.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:46 PM
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you wouldn't have us complaining 24/7 and making threads about the new moderators..
we could just perm ban you and get the same result.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:54 PM
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we could just perm ban you and get the same result.
i'm sure that ban would have a GREAT ban reason.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:57 PM
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But to say that all unregistered users don't post here because of Darlene, Sam, and Unixmad is still completely ridiculous.
You're the one who said that.

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I would say that most of the registered users don't post because (a) they don't really have a reason to, and (b) they bought a subscription to play the game, not to the get on the forums.

Look, I see stupid rules here. Not being allowed to post URLs? Stupid. Not being able to quote somebody without writing something in return? Pretty stupid. Being forbidden from complaining about the rules? Oh, wait. Anyways, yeah, not a cool rule.

But, there comes a point when most people would realize that, hey, what I'm doing isn't working towards achieving the outcome I want. Maybe I should change my approach? That's all I'm trying to say.
I knew you were going to say something like this, so I decided to take the initiative and ask the players of various servers directly as to why they don't post on these forums. I logged onto the servers with decent playercounts, PM'd each player individually with the question "Why don't you visit the official Graal forums" and categorically tallied the results. I received 42 replies from Era players, 31 replies from Unholy Nation players, and 48 replies from Zodiac players. I did log onto other servers such as Valikorlia, N-Pulse and Classic, but the sample wasn't as large as these three. The results were generally predictable.







Do you see the problem yet?
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Content is the problem? So it sounds like we need more interesting threads!
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