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Old 01-20-2009, 09:36 PM
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We are the marketing agency. We are the advertising agency. GraalOnline doesn't make this game, we do
No we're not, and the fact that we are and have been "making this game" should be highly appreciated and more of a novelty, since it's their job to begin with (especially since they started charging people to play on playermade servers and offer very little on their own servers).
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Old 01-20-2009, 10:33 PM
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No we're not, and the fact that we are and have been "making this game" should be highly appreciated and more of a novelty, since it's their job to begin with (especially since they started charging people to play on playermade servers and offer very little on their own servers).
Well, it's certainly not our responsibility to advertise their product - but their product seems to be where you're confused (and, undoubtedly, they are as well); they provide a service for people interested in developing games. They provide the servers, the manager tools, the administration, the community to help you, and the environment to develop in.

Sadly, they have lost sight of their game entirely in an attempt to branch their market - essentially thinning their community due to a lack of control and quality updates.

It's not our responsibility, but if a group of us are interested there is certainly nothing to stop us from persuing Graal advertising in our own time. I've run a series of "Graal Online" adWord campaigns to get an idea of Graal's advertising potential. I only put ~$10 a month into it and there was a bit of interest. With highly optimized ads, and a larger budget (~$400/mo) we could certainly see perceptible results.

I've set up the means to measure the result, too. I have been monitoring player actively through a series of MySQL database and logging utilities. The front end needs to be optimized (outdated clunky code atm) but the back end is healthy.
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:43 PM
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Indeed and it seems everyone who's been calling it a service first and game second has too.
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:42 AM
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Indeed and it seems everyone who's been calling it a service first and game second has too.
In my opinion it is a service first and a game second - however, the service side is maturely developed where the game side needs more (official) attention. I don't think we need another server, just better support; I don't know about Zone, but I can definitely say that GK has been poorly supported by Cyberjoueurs for years.
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