Server Reset/Becoming Classic. (Addresses many problem's)

[Drakeero]

I sunk too many hours of my life in this game. I've stuck with it over the years, in and out of major real life issues. I dont PK, I packrat. It's the only game I've found that's let me build up such a huge collection. Whenever I lose a bunch of stuff to collapsed houses it sends me into an immediate, deep depression.

If the server is reset, I am definitely quitting GK.

[Vulgar]

Originally Posted by Vincent3313

It's called alchemy. I started with nothing and within a month or 2 I got Green Cloak, PMoP +12, Marks +12, Lucky Boots+ 12, Mith +12... All of these are easy accessible with some GKs and some EAs. Except for Luckys, you craft them, even easier. GC buy it for a very low amount of dias. All of these and I get 25 str with it maxed. The only reason why you can't break people is because of low WC not str or damage. Get Marks +12 and a decent phys lvl, around 40 is good. You should have enough WC to break a lvl 110. In spars though there is no break so there isn't any excuse there. The only thing base lvl does for you is HP. (It's call IMP POTS!)

WC is based on phys level and i'd like to see you pk someone with that 200 hp difference with your like 24 con. And there is only like 2-3 items that are alchable that are decent so don't say loliusedalchemy. You should beable to craft/alch an entire set of gear to give you damn near close to 30 30 30 if not 30 30 30 and then the other bonus' like resist should be saved for the rare gear. I for one couldn't pk people with my 35 phys and 30 str so I didn't have enough WC to break most people.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Vulgar

Normal players who don't usd or cross server trade cannot get 30 30 30

How do you plan on backing that up?

[Vincent3313]

If so then what would be the point of looking for items? If everyone can just alchemy the best items for 30/30/30 then there would be no fun in obtaining other items. You can get +4 WC from Marks and +12. And again... IMP POTS!!! You obviously don't know what they are.

[Googi]

As far as I know, no server has demonstrably increased its playerbase with a reset (at best they've been able to reset without decreasing it). Besides, resetting is the lazy way out of economic problems. If there's a problem with hoarding of rare items, rather than resetting, a better solution would be to institute some kind of "luxury tax" on holding rare items on your account or in your house, and you have to pay some amount of diamonds/platinum per week, the amount varying from item to item, (of course, you can pay several weeks in advance if you won't be around/etc.) or the staff repossess the item and event it off.

[Vulgar]

Originally Posted by Vincent3313

If so then what would be the point of looking for items? If everyone can just alchemy the best items for 30/30/30 then there would be no fun in obtaining other items. You can get +4 WC from Marks and +12. And again... IMP POTS!!! You obviously don't know what they are.

I'm not saying for them to make it so you need like 1 tree seed and 10 logs to make an item, there should be loads of stuff you have to do in order to make things. And you can go try to use improvement potions to get your hp to 540, you're retarded because you obviously either don't understand what I'm saying or you don't know how they work. Seriously hop off the fail bus.

Originally Posted by kia345

How do you plan on backing that up?

Years of playing maybe?

[Vincent3313]

Also the economy going down can actually be a good thing for players. Buy dias and wait a few weeks and it will be more. You can make a decent profit off that.

[Vulgar]

The only time I have seen the price of diamonds change in the past few years is when there was an abundance of plat duped, Flawed logic sry.

[Vincent3313]

Originally Posted by Vulgar

I'm not saying for them to make it so you need like 1 tree seed and 10 logs to make an item, there should be loads of stuff you have to do in order to make things. And you can go try to use improvement potions to get your hp to 540, you're retarded because you obviously either don't understand what I'm saying or you don't know how they work. Seriously hop off the fail bus.

Years of playing maybe?

Stop your whining, obviously you suck at the game if your complaining that you can't get any good items. You should just stop crying.

[Vulgar]

Originally Posted by Vincent3313

Stop your whining, obviously you suck at the game if your complaining that you can't get any good items. You should just stop crying.

I'm just trying to correct the less informed people like yourself.

[Vincent3313]

Your just trying to correct me with insults. Like how much I fail. I probably no more about this server then how much you know about your life.

[Vulgar]

Originally Posted by Vincent3313

Your just trying to correct me with insults. Like how much I fail. I probably no more about this server then how much you know about your life.

Obviously not if you think you can get 540 hp from improvement potions.

[Vincent3313]

It's possible retard. You think base lvls are the only way to get 2-4 hp each lvl?!!

[Drakeero]

Alright... arguing aside...

From the days when I was a poor, weak noob without the ability to break into the rare item trade I've believed in one big possible way to help the economy. I still hold that view today. I might be far from the richest, but I have built up my hoard and do not want to see it lost [or taxed. Googi, I could throw stuff at you for that. Big hard stuff.]

INCREASE THE NUMBER OF RARE ITEMS.

Ever since I first heard someone bring up that idea there has been the baawwwing of people who take great pride in having the "only one" or "two out of three" of some super rare item. Personally, I can put up with some rare thing I have becoming more common. Course, it IS nice to have the only golden chef hat, but its not going to ruin my life if oh let's say... 3 more got released.

I think it might be a good start to getting more items around and really, devaluing items is a good start. We can STILL have super-rare super-powerful items, but a lot of other stuff probably needs to show up in higher quantities. That's one of the reasons why I liked the Halloween event. It dumped a bunch of diamonds in. Yeah, prices probably jumped pretty high to adjust to it but I think it was a step in the right direction.

For people who are interested in/need stats rather then just pack-ratting like me, there's the kingdom item projects and I think there's a lesser worked on improvement to god items. If handled well those should be much easier to obtain, high quantities, and may relieve a lot of the "bawww my stats suck" problems.

[Vulgar]

Originally Posted by Vincent3313

It's possible retard. You think base lvls are the only way to get 2-4 hp each lvl?!!

Enough said, my point has been proven. I'm finished with this flame war.

[kia345]

For items: Make more exclusive items

For leveling: Require pking at lower levels, so everyone has an opportunity to pk. This alone would increase activity in kingdoms, people will begin siding with kingdom to prevent being killed by that one's big pk'ers.

[Drakeero]

Originally Posted by Vincent3313

It's possible retard. You think base lvls are the only way to get 2-4 hp each lvl?!!

Hey um, just a curious side question. How is that possible?

I used about 15 improvement potions before they stopped working and I just kind of got like 15 points randomly scattered among my three stats. Ok... maybe there was a 2 and even a 3 mixed in but I really didn't get anything worth noting.

[Sky]

Reset? Uhh, no. I have nothing of value but my 3k hours and my level. So yea, I don't think I'd wanna loose that.

I just don't understand how people can't PK with regular old items. My gear contains the following: fhom, bunny mask, dex cape, speed ammy, marks, dual ros, glok belt, and snow boots. My weapons consist of a flaming sword and a xmas sword. I can beat a decent amount of people. x.x'

[Vincent3313]

Originally Posted by Drakeero

Hey um, just a curious side question. How is that possible?

I used about 15 improvement potions before they stopped working and I just kind of got like 15 points randomly scattered among my three stats. Ok... maybe there was a 2 and even a 3 mixed in but I really didn't get anything worth noting.

Takes a bit but Imp pots can increase your hp but pretty slowly.

Another thing about the rarity of items, RDAFs and BDAFs. I've only seen 1 fragment my whole life and I played since 2003... Honestly those are way to rare and RDA and BDA takes 3... I think you should drop it to 1 or make the DAFs a little easier to get. To all of you who don't know RDAF = Red Dragon Amulet Fragment, BDAF = Blue Dragon Amulet Fragment... etc...

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Vincent3313

Another thing about the rarity of items, RDAFs and BDAFs. I've only seen 1 fragment my whole life and I played since 2003... Honestly those are way to rare and RDA and BDA takes 3... I think you should drop it to 1 or make the DAFs a little easier to get. To all of you who don't know RDAF = Red Dragon Amulet Fragment, BDAF = Blue Dragon Amulet Fragment... etc...

R/BDA were never meant to be easily obtainable items. They were only recently added to the Event shop, before that, the only way you could get them was winning them from events, or trading in the fragments that you won from events. It is my understanding that the only reason the R/BDA are in the Event shop is so when people do actually win three fragments, they don't need to bother staff to trade them in for a completed amulet.

[Vincent3313]

I'm surprised people even have it, I only seen RDAF get raffled on a retarded event.

[kia345]

They were around way before the full amulet showed up in shops, and were evented off as individual fragments. One of the RDAFs were evented off within Zormite several months ago. They're not supposed to be items just anyone can get, neither are the complete amulets. Chances are the amulets you see floating around have been out for ages.

[Vulgar]

Originally Posted by Drakeero

Hey um, just a curious side question. How is that possible?

I used about 15 improvement potions before they stopped working and I just kind of got like 15 points randomly scattered among my three stats. Ok... maybe there was a 2 and even a 3 mixed in but I really didn't get anything worth noting.

You can't get 540 hp by just using Improvement Potions. I'm pretty sure the cap is somewhere between 320-340, I forget which one.

[MajinDragon]

I'm hearing alot of 'Make it easier to level' posts. Well i'm completely against that. I prefer a server whereby the maximum levels are hard, near impossible to obtain, and not one in which you end up with half the server maxed out, just collecting items after two months (Zodiac). Yes, there are oldbies who abused bugs - Fr0 and others - and if it were up to me at the time, they would have been reset for bug abuse, simple as that. But just because people way back had it a little easier, and now quit btw, doesn't mean the levelling curve needs to be made easier on the newb.
Part of why i log on daily, is to level on my brutals, if i was maxed out, i wouldn't even bother comming on.

Reset is def not the answer - yes i'll say it again. It's, as googi mentioned, the easy wait out of an economic problem, it can probably only work for era - Yea it works because those gangster nerds keep comming back - because they don't 'level' like on GK/Zodiac, they just collect a bit of wealth, invest, and watch the money grow.

Gotta go nw so im nt gonna quote anyone.

[Andre2006]

I agree that putting Graal Kingdoms down to classic would increase the player count insanely, I would start playing for sure.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by Andre2006

I agree that putting Graal Kingdoms down to classic would increase the player count insanely, I would start playing for sure.

We'd all like things to be free, however we all know they can't be.

[Elizabeth]

i voted "no"

[xXziroXx]

Reseting a server to "fix" problems is always the worst possible thing you can do, and is just a temporary solution to a long term issue.

[Tigairius]

Well, you can't just restart a server and expect everything to go smoothly. It's one of the most common misconceptions about server resets. Take, for example, Era. Era has reset so many times that some people don't even want to play there anymore because they're afraid that their items will be reset. The reason it's been reset so many times is because each time they reset, they simply reset. Unfortunately it's not that easy. You would have to do major system changes, test them out to make sure there aren't any bugs, eliminate any economical weaknesses and do a lot more before a server reset. On top of that, I think there are much better ways to handle the imbalance of GK (which is planned) that do not require a reset.

Originally Posted by Drakeero

INCREASE THE NUMBER OF RARE ITEMS.

Before we do that we need to increase the number of players, which will also happen in time.

[DuBsTeRmAn]

No! There shouldn't come a reset, tough i never play it. Anyway.. I dont have alot of items there but i have some which mean ALOT to me, and i dont want to lose them. So please do not reset ;(

[Clockwork]

I believe this would be great.

A reset while switching to classic would mean a fresh start with a larger crowd more willing to play it if it was classic.

Don't let the poll fool you, most of GK players read the forums and have the chance to vote against this for the sake of keeping some items and levels likely gained ages ago with the party glitch (or whatever it was...)

Many classic players don't read the forums but I'd bet many of them would love to play it on a fresh start while it wasn't so expensive to play, and pro-filled.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by Clockwork

I believe this would be great.

A reset while switching to classic would mean a fresh start with a larger crowd more willing to play it if it was classic.

Don't let the poll fool you, most of GK players read the forums and have the chance to vote against this for the sake of keeping some items and levels likely gained ages ago with the party glitch (or whatever it was...)

Many classic players don't read the forums but I'd bet many of them would love to play it on a fresh start while it wasn't so expensive to play, and pro-filled.

You know little of GK. And ofcourse the majority of Graal players would like GK to be classic because the majority don't want to pay for gold but would like to play GK. Well tough. It's p2p and should stay like that imo.

Excuse me but most of the voters didn't abuse any party glitch, infact, there's probably only one/two players who are active that abused that glitch. The reason the majority are against a reset, is becauses the Cons outweigh the Pro's, heavily.

[Ravenblade1979]

Comes down to this. Work hard and gather expensive items (do npc escort quests, mine, do the west haunted house final room over and over) and you can obtain these good items from people selling them.

But a god damn reset is NOT going to accomplish this...A mass amount of people who had these good items and stats WILL leave gk. Plain and simple. The original poster of this probably doesn't have the good items and wants to find a shortcut to being with the other people.

WORK FOR THE ITEMS YOU WANT.

Thats why there's an economy on GK.

[FenixTheBanished]

This is the most ridiculous proposition I have ever heard of. Garrett you and I need to have a talk =/.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn

No! There shouldn't come a reset, tough i never play it. Anyway.. I dont have alot of items there but i have some which mean ALOT to me, and i dont want to lose them. So please do not reset ;(

People like you that only have personal reasons not to reset is what makes this idea look good, since you only care about personal gain.

Originally Posted by Clockwork

I believe this would be great.

A reset while switching to classic would mean a fresh start with a larger crowd more willing to play it if it was classic.

No, it would be rather horrible. First of all, GK going Classic isn't going to happen because it would make CJ lose money, and they need the little they're able to call profit to stay interested in keeping Graal online. Secondly, a reset is ONLY showing poor lack of judgment from the management because it never ever fixes anything, usually the opposite. Weak minded people chose that solution since it shows fastest result, but it's only temporary.

Originally Posted by Clockwork

Don't let the poll fool you, most of GK players read the forums and have the chance to vote against this for the sake of keeping some items and levels likely gained ages ago with the party glitch (or whatever it was...)

Barely anyone playing actively nowadays even knows what the party glitch was. I've earned my items fair and square through hard work the past months, and anyone else can do the same. Just because you lack the dedication for it, doesn't mean changing it is for the better. Grow some balls or play another server.

Originally Posted by Clockwork

Many classic players don't read the forums but I'd bet many of them would love to play it on a fresh start while it wasn't so expensive to play, and pro-filled.

Yes, of course they'd like to play on a newly reset server for free if they get a chance to become a top player within a week and bring their crappy retard unintelligent egoistical childish attitudes with them.

[Gothika]

Would you reset the hard drive on your Playstation 3 or X-Box 360?... I didn't think so.

[Vincent3313]

Listen, a reset would be completely unfair to everyone who worked so hard to get to the max lvl, John, I'm sure Naith also... these are just examples of many people. You can switch to classic if you want, more people probably would play but I highly doubt Stefan would do that. What I would do is lower the price for gold, 50$ is a bit to much for 1 year... I'm running out of galets like maybe 170 left, and since I bought gold the price actually went up. You should lower the price to maybe 30$ cause 50$ can buy me a high tech game that's probably a lot funner.

[Soala]

I heard reset GK? Do this and I quit.

[cyan3]

To put it simply a reset won't fix anything at all. Also Graal Kingdoms is never going to reset so why are you all complaining about it?

[OasaTor_PK]

Leave a gold version of GK for all the retards to play on who thinks they are good at something for having items and make a classic version where everyone is having fun once again.

gg problem solved, all the retards will stay on gold version all the peopl ewho wanna hav fun will go classi