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Old 12-01-2008, 04:01 AM
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Skill Wise: Ace

Attitude Wise: Sapphire

Hilarity Wise: Sean (dunno why, he just was so stupid at some times i laugh)
Yeah, I think we should just vote that way, not who's the strongest and stuff, but by categories...
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Old 12-01-2008, 04:12 AM
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skill is definitly ace imo

as a person id say huwajux
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Old 12-01-2008, 04:00 PM
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I'd vote Typhoon or Touya.

Touya was hella good, Typhoon (hereafter referred to as "Jar Jar") was overrated crap.

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ace could have ripped them both to shreds.
Ace and I were on a even playing field. I wasn't one of the first Xanadu's just because of my charm and good looks.


Ace, Tro, Zidaine, Ray... I miss those guys.

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Saian probably. What ever happened to him? Did he ever go to school for grafic design?
Ace was better than Sayian. As a matter of a fact, Sayian was an Ace worshipper.

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i never remember touya beating ace when ace was at his best, and typhoon is overrated , i was better than him.
IXI, Touya was way better than Ace. Touya's prime was before you started playing so you can't be expected to know that...but yeah, Touya and Jin were absolute beasts.


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skill is definitly ace imo
Your opinion is lame.



Siwin Fiery (tao_clan1) was your God.

For his time, at least, there was no one better. His skill started falling apart after he stopped using appirces and used other weapons...

He was the first marshall, the first elite...

Anyone who played back then can't deny tao's legacy. He had three times the amount of experience the person in second place had. He was a machine!

He'd go into base 1 and kill everyone except one noob, he'd finally fall to that kid and then just be fine. He wouldn't team chat "lag" and scream and rant and rave about how Zone sucks like most kids these days do. That was pretty cool to me.

unknown (Sweep_Fleet) killed by tao_clan1 (Storm_Riders) with appirces (+12 exp)

You saw that WAY too much back when I first started playing. Tao has my vote.

In all reality, this is a matter of opinion. Even if someone is better than Siwin, I will never accept it. Siwin was the guy I viewed as the best when I first started playing and he has always been there. Even if the entire Forums community shouts "Ace" at me I'll still scream right back "TAO!!!"

The same applies to DDC diehards, or Jin diehards, or Ace diehards.
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Old 12-01-2008, 04:54 PM
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:10 PM
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Toni A hos is the best player ever.
LMAO YES! the best player with lagz! LAGZ MAN IS HIM


revo, rmeber we were having fun with him. do u know now his country? lol
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:07 PM
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In all reality, this is a matter of opinion. Even if someone is better than Siwin, I will never accept it. Siwin was the guy I viewed as the best when I first started playing and he has always been there. Even if the entire Forums community shouts "Ace" at me I'll still scream right back "TAO!!!"
Siwin sucked.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:21 PM
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Siwin was good when I first saw him, thought he was beast but called not playing and he was the first best player of zone lol.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:27 PM
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Siwin sucked.
Siwin rocked.

Throw your big words at me, I don't care. Siwin will always be the best to me.
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:08 PM
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theres been a different top player during every different era of zone. even jesse was the best player at one points, i wish all those people could log on in their prime, with me in my prime, and just have one big scrap.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:22 AM
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Siwin was good when I first saw him, thought he was beast but called not playing and he was the first best player of zone lol.
Stop acting like you are a damn oldbie. You started this year.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:42 AM
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Siwin was good when I first saw him, thought he was beast but called not playing and he was the first best player of zone lol.
i don't even understand what you said
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:56 AM
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i don't even understand what you said
Who knows, he thinks he's played longer than most of us.
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:40 AM
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Siwin was good when I first saw him, thought he was beast but called not playing and he was the first best player of zone lol.
I know you didn't play back then... What were the 3 major guilds at that time period?

Tell me 3 alternate nicknames Siwin used to wear back when he was declared "best player."
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Old 12-02-2008, 02:22 AM
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I know you didn't play back then... What were the 3 major guilds at that time period?

Tell me 3 alternate nicknames Siwin used to wear back when he was declared "best player."
My cousin showed me this game years ago I didn't start to play 2 years ago. I played before but didn't know what I was doing.
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Old 12-02-2008, 04:56 AM
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My cousin showed me this game years ago I didn't start to play 2 years ago. I played before but didn't know what I was doing.
And I'm Ace. >.>
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Old 12-02-2008, 05:24 AM
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By god ... I KNEW IT!
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Old 12-02-2008, 09:52 PM
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Throw your big words at me, I don't care. Siwin will always be the best to me.
Siwin sucked.
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Old 12-02-2008, 10:21 PM
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:57 AM
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Old 12-03-2008, 02:16 PM
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i think someone has a crush on siwin :P
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:50 PM
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Old 12-03-2008, 05:14 PM
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Old 12-04-2008, 06:33 AM
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This is opinion based, and let's remember, most Graal players do not judge a player by their purest skill - they mix in popularity and all of that junk.

Let's be real here, who was the actual best? Well, you have to look at pure dominance. You can't fight in a small pond of players, and lay claim to being the best (This is targeted to all the people suggesting, IxI, Typhoon, and Ace were the best).

StormY IMO is the absolute best. He fought in a large pond, an ocean in fact. He was the best in Zone's "Golden Age" of players. After Hayashi died off, and most of the veterans quit, Zone was a much easier server to become the "best" on. Argue or not, it's the truth.

I also noticed that many people (As I stated above) who are popular, will receive more votes for the "best" position.

Argue with me if you must, but various players (Some of whom no one has mentioned yet) would defiantly be ranked high in Zone's all-time "best" list. RealDDC, Gambet, Muroku (SC?), and Touya were amongst the elites.

Although I do personally believe that Tao and Gambet become bigger than they actually were (Skill wise). Muroku was very underrated by many, and he was a solid player. Touya was a killing machine back in the day. He didn't play for stats, but if you challenged him to a spar you would of probably lost. RealDDC was an amazing player if I recall. I never got along with him during my stay on Zone, but I always respected the dude because he never let his skill get to his head.

Anyways, that's just my take. Nobody here is going to agree.

You can have your little "Fan Clubs," but that doesn't mean who you worship is actually the best.
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Old 12-04-2008, 06:36 AM
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This is opinion based, and let's remember, most Graal players do not judge a player by their purest skill - they mix in popularity and all of that junk.

Let's be real here, who was the actual best? Well, you have to look at pure dominance. You can't fight in a small pond of players, and lay claim to being the best (This is targeted to all the people suggesting, IxI, Typhoon, and Ace were the best).

StormY IMO is the absolute best. He fought in a large pond, an ocean in fact. He was the best in Zone's "Golden Age" of players. After Hayashi died off, and most of the veterans quit, Zone was a much easier server to become the "best" on. Argue or not, it's the truth.

I also noticed that many people (As I stated above) who are popular, will receive more votes for the "best" position.

Argue with me if you must, but various players (Some of whom no one has mentioned yet) would defiantly be ranked high in Zone's all-time "best" list. RealDDC, Gambet, Muroku (SC?), and Touya were amongst the elites.

Although I do personally believe that Tao and Gambet become bigger than they actually were (Skill wise). Muroku was very underrated by many, and he was a solid player. Touya was a killing machine back in the day. He didn't play for stats, but if you challenged him to a spar you would of probably lost. RealDDC was an amazing player if I recall. I never got along with him during my stay on Zone, but I always respected the dude because he never let his skill get to his head.

Anyways, that's just my take. Nobody here is going to agree.

You can have your little "Fan Clubs," but that doesn't mean who you worship is actually the best.
I have a question... who the hell are you?
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Old 12-04-2008, 08:38 AM
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Wow, I don't know who you are, but I like you.

RealDDC probably didn't let it all go to his head because he was in his 20s when he played.
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:55 AM
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Let's be real here, who was the actual best? Well, you have to look at pure dominance. You can't fight in a small pond of players, and lay claim to being the best (This is targeted to all the people suggesting, IxI, Typhoon, and Ace were the best). .
what do you mean by cant fight in a small pond of players?
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:17 PM
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Aldaris, Read the name from the poster Its left above on his post.
i know that, smartypants. im just wondering how hes known all this information when in my 2 years playing i have never seen his account name.. he is very smart apparently.. a second Huwajux? O.o
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Old 12-04-2008, 06:19 PM
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StormY IMO is the absolute best.
He was without a doubt in the top 5, I agree.


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RealDDC, Gambet, Muroku (SC?), and Touya were amongst the elites.
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Although I do personally believe that Tao and Gambet become bigger than they actually were (Skill wise).
I suppose everyone got overrated in Old Zone, even Storm.

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Muroku was very underrated by many, and he was a solid player.
I never liked him after I beat him in spar to join Hayashi and he stuck me in Infantry. Which, at the time, I understood was super low rank. But whatever, the past is past.

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Touya was a killing machine back in the day. He didn't play for stats, but if you challenged him to a spar you would of probably lost. RealDDC was an amazing player if I recall. I never got along with him during my stay on Zone, but I always respected the dude because he never let his skill get to his head.
You should come back on Zone for a bit, you'll probably see DDC. He plays again now.

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Anyways, that's just my take. Nobody here is going to agree.
Everyone has their own opinion. I like how you stood your ground and stated it rather than going with the flow. :]


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I have a question... who the hell are you?
An Oldbie.

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i know that, smartypants. im just wondering how hes known all this information when in my 2 years playing i have never seen his account name

Because 2 years is, seriously, a long time.
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Old 12-04-2008, 07:40 PM
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i know that, smartypants. im just wondering how hes known all this information when in my 2 years playing i have never seen his account name.. he is very smart apparently.. a second Huwajux? O.o
in my 4-5 years playing ive never seen him either, im assuming its not his first acct.
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:04 AM
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what do you mean by cant fight in a small pond of players?
What I mean by this (And I don't mean to offend anybody), is this:

When Ace was dubbed "the best," he wasn't in a good league of players. If I can recall, most of the oldies and legends had quit before Ace ever gained his fame. Now, am I calling him a bad player? No, I think he was a fantastic player. He stood out for a reason, but I honestly can't compare him and StormY. StormY had to outshine the likes of Silos, Huwajux, Touya, Jin, Muroku, FireBoX, Jesse, RealDDC and others (Sorry if I didn't list you).

As far as IxI and Typhoon being the best, I can't vogue for this. IxI was always a good player, but I'm not sure if he was/is "best worthy." Typhoon was decent when I played with him, but when he got really good I had already quit, so I can't really recall what he was able to accomplish.

And no, this is not my first account. If you must know, ask me. However, I do not think that it is a valid subject that contributes to this topic.
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Old 12-05-2008, 01:22 AM
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Aldaris made an EXTREMELY good point that I've never even considered. I want to kick myself for missing something so crucial to proper judgement, yet so obvious:

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When Ace was dubbed "the best," he wasn't in a good league of players. If I can recall, most of the oldies and legends had quit before Ace ever gained his fame. Now, am I calling him a bad player? No, I think he was a fantastic player. He stood out for a reason, but I honestly can't compare him and StormY. StormY had to outshine the likes of Silos, Huwajux, Touya, Jin, Muroku, FireBoX, Jesse, RealDDC and others (Sorry if I didn't list you).

If I had read this a few years ago, by the way, my ego might have made me flip out. Luckily I've grown up a LITTLE bit since then so I don't mind you not mentioning me.

I can't remember how good I actually was, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't that amazing anyway. I was all talk most of the time xD

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Old 12-05-2008, 03:51 AM
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Your obviously Jin.
I'm willing to bet on that.

I say that's Trojan.
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:20 AM
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What I mean by this (And I don't mean to offend anybody), is this:

When Ace was dubbed "the best," he wasn't in a good league of players. If I can recall, most of the oldies and legends had quit before Ace ever gained his fame. Now, am I calling him a bad player? No, I think he was a fantastic player. He stood out for a reason, but I honestly can't compare him and StormY. StormY had to outshine the likes of Silos, Huwajux, Touya, Jin, Muroku, FireBoX, Jesse, RealDDC and others (Sorry if I didn't list you).

As far as IxI and Typhoon being the best, I can't vogue for this. IxI was always a good player, but I'm not sure if he was/is "best worthy." Typhoon was decent when I played with him, but when he got really good I had already quit, so I can't really recall what he was able to accomplish.

And no, this is not my first account. If you must know, ask me. However, I do not think that it is a valid subject that contributes to this topic.
yeah good point, i started playing when storm was becoming easy, and ace was the best, i got on even level with ace then he quit and i hardly ever got a challenge, who knows if all the newer good players started from the beginning maybe things would be different but in my case, ive never even seen siwin or firebox etc fight good
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Your obviously Jin.
Wow that's creepy. I was reading his post above yours, and I noticed in the way he talked that he sounded familiar. I was thinking it was Jin then I saw your post, I mean, trust him to make a quick comeback as soon as there is a thread titled "Best Player Of Zone". Towards the end of Jin's days, he went all super mature and started using big words at me, saying how he's going to be a lawyer. Good for him if he manages that, it was just funny because it was such a sudden change in person, sort of. He kind of did randomly attack me with verbal abuse when I was minding my own business though...

Is anyone here old enough to have remembered that cartoon Bl0nkt made about Jin? XD
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Wow that's creepy. I was reading his post above yours, and I noticed in the way he talked that he sounded familiar. I was thinking it was Jin then I saw your post, I mean, trust him to make a quick comeback as soon as there is a thread titled "Best Player Of Zone". Towards the end of Jin's days, he went all super mature and started using big words at me, saying how he's going to be a lawyer. Good for him if he manages that, it was just funny because it was such a sudden change in person, sort of. He kind of did randomly attack me with verbal abuse when I was minding my own business though...

Is anyone here old enough to have remembered that cartoon Bl0nkt made about Jin? XD
its on someones sig isnt it?
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Is anyone here old enough to have remembered that cartoon Bl0nkt made about Jin? XD
Is anyone here old enough to have remembered that cartoon Ace made about Stefan?

I've still got it backed up on my computer somewhere...
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