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Old 11-29-2008, 06:54 PM
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Important? It's only been around a short time, I never remember having to keep a schedule, and we seemed to get along fine - if not better - without it.
I agree with Pojo on this point. From the sounds of it you have had more difficulty with scheduled events then with the old system.

I mean you could do the bigger events scheduled but the smaller more common ones just let the em's host whenever. You don't neccessarily have to give out EC's in them..maybe brutals or rubies. Keep the bigger prices for the scheduled events.
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Old 11-29-2008, 08:08 PM
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I agree with Pojo on this point. From the sounds of it you have had more difficulty with scheduled events then with the old system.
The events schedule isn't forced, it is merely a 'background' support system for the events team. So it is still the old system, EMs can still host events at any time they want, but if the EMs sign up, they have to host at the time they signed up as well as any time they want. The schedule system can do nothing but benefit GK.
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Old 11-29-2008, 08:35 PM
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EMs can still host events at any time they want
The problem is that they don't. That's why there's so few events, because they stick to the schedule. Ditch the schedule and require there be an event hosted 8/10ths of the day everyday.

If you log on and see an EM off tag and no event has been hosted 10 minutes ago, then there's a problem.
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The problem is that they don't. That's why there's so few events, because they stick to the schedule. Ditch the schedule and require there be an event hosted 8/10ths of the day everyday.

If you log on and see an EM off tag and no event has been hosted 10 minutes ago, then there's a problem.
The first part is completely accurate, however the second part i do somewhat disagree with because the EMs dont get paid enough for it to be a full time job, plain and simple. So every EM that logs on should do 2-4 events a day and thats good enough.
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Old 11-29-2008, 09:02 PM
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The problem is that they don't. That's why there's so few events, because they stick to the schedule. Ditch the schedule and require there be an event hosted 8/10ths of the day everyday.

If you log on and see an EM off tag and no event has been hosted 10 minutes ago, then there's a problem.
Point some EMs my way who can reliably be online every single day and host 2-4 events every single day. They must also act professional and must be of good character. Preferably in forum PM. You may not recommend yourself. Make sure they aren't the kind of person to get tired of the job and go inactive.

Let's go, serious entries please.
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Old 11-29-2008, 09:38 PM
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Assuming GK actually had the playercount to support it, hiring 7-10 EMs to host 2-4 times a day 5-7 days a week would be the perfect move. But GK doesn't have the amount of players to have that many Event Masters. It can't live completely off events. But if there was enough to actually bring players onto the server, then it would actually be possible and beneficial to have several EMs who can constantly host. It's not like it's impossible to find good people, GK just doesn't have a big enough community pool to pick people out of.
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Old 11-29-2008, 10:14 PM
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Assuming GK actually had the playercount to support it, hiring 7-10 EMs to host 2-4 times a day 5-7 days a week would be the perfect move. But GK doesn't have the amount of players to have that many Event Masters. It can't live completely off events. But if there was enough to actually bring players onto the server, then it would actually be possible and beneficial to have several EMs who can constantly host. It's not like it's impossible to find good people, GK just doesn't have a big enough community pool to pick people out of.
Generally I found that unless its a holiday or summer there's not many people on due to school/university/college/work.

Now i know people who do work come on but your right its not enough.

So instead of this topic why not another to get community views on how to improve/add to GK to bring in more people. I mean other then putting it on iphone (thats how zone is so popular).

@Tig: I do agree with you on your latest post but as it seems you already have enough on GK so why not try to call a meeting with them or at least email them with an updated rule. Maybe...Host at least twice everyday when you are on.

Actually send that to the ones who are on everyday like Drakeero or whoever.

I mean yeah I had a piss poor attitude and people hated me but at least I still hosted a couple of times a day (up until those months that we had like no one on during when I was).
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Old 11-29-2008, 11:39 PM
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Generally I found that unless its a holiday or summer there's not many people on due to school/university/college/work
It's called time management Ravenblade. If you're going to volunteer to do something, that means you better have time to do it. School comes up? That's too damn bad, guess you're going to have to choose one over the other. Gotta get job? Quit hosting events and do it. That doesn't mean become an inactive staff member, it means quit. If you volunteer to something, you had better have time set aside for it. That's the exact same problem everyone had with Bjorn. He wouldn't step down, but then when we *****ed about his inactivity "BLAH BLAH SCHOOL BLAH BLAH WORK".
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:20 AM
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It's called time management Ravenblade. If you're going to volunteer to do something, that means you better have time to do it. School comes up? That's too damn bad, guess you're going to have to choose one over the other. Gotta get job? Quit hosting events and do it. That doesn't mean become an inactive staff member, it means quit. If you volunteer to something, you had better have time set aside for it. That's the exact same problem everyone had with Bjorn. He wouldn't step down, but then when we *****ed about his inactivity "BLAH BLAH SCHOOL BLAH BLAH WORK".
I think youre more bashing him then actually discussing what he said.

His point wasn't about your tanget. He was making the point that PLAYERS, not STAFF, have work/school, etc. so that there arent enough people on to justify hosting.
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:35 AM
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Now let me tell you why I don't host as much as I used to.

I hate logging. Sorry. I still host more than most of the EMs. I just HATE logging them.

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Old 11-30-2008, 11:16 AM
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To be an EM is fun AND a burden. I think you must find a way to have motivated EM's with different ideas.
What about temporary EM's for a week or EM's hosting on a specific day (Monday, Tuesday...)? Just an idea. My experience is that new EM's hosting many events and after a few days they lose interest or getting sick about players disturbing events.
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:54 PM
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TMy experience is that new EM's hosting many events and after a few days they lose interest or getting sick about players disturbing events.
What I get sick of is EVERYONE asking for raffle. All the time. It's pretty much raffle, waterglass or musical chairs. Thats all people want.
No one even wants to do soccer anymore. People used to jump at the chance to do that.

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Now let me tell you why I don't host as much as I used to.

I hate logging. Sorry. I still host more than most of the EMs. I just HATE logging them.
I don't mind it that much. Atleast its not as hard to fill out as the old one. Where we had to put down the account name for whoever won a prize. Which gets crazy when Graal718272 accounts get into it.
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Old 11-30-2008, 01:40 PM
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What I get sick of is EVERYONE asking for raffle. All the time. It's pretty much raffle, waterglass or musical chairs. Thats all people want.
No one even wants to do soccer anymore. People used to jump at the chance to do that.
That's an important point! There are many people just wants to have events for getting free stuff without doing anything.
Events like raffles should only made for low prices like food, lvl. 1-3 maps and such things.
One big problem of GK is that players didn't get that it is a roleplay- and community-server in the first row!
GK lacks on headmen like Alan. He was able to lead his citizens in war and peace and make amazing ship battles and stuff.

GK is boring when players just sit and wait instead get in action. I am sick about people just sitting there and waiting for others to entertain them.
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One big problem of GK is that players didn't get that it is a roleplay- and community-server in the first row!
GK lacks on headmen like Alan. He was able to lead his citizens in war and peace and make amazing ship battles and stuff.

GK is boring when players just sit and wait instead get in action. I am sick about people just sitting there and waiting for others to entertain them.
I've noticed that most players don't care about role playing and kingdom activity. When I was Governor of CP I planned big events at least every 2 weeks but people didn't turn up so I was forced to cancel them.
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:07 PM
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That's an important point! There are many people just wants to have events for getting free stuff without doing anything.
Events like raffles should only made for low prices like food, lvl. 1-3 maps and such things.
One big problem of GK is that players didn't get that it is a roleplay- and community-server in the first row!
GK lacks on headmen like Alan. He was able to lead his citizens in war and peace and make amazing ship battles and stuff.

GK is boring when players just sit and wait instead get in action. I am sick about people just sitting there and waiting for others to entertain them.
One of the major problems Sam is that people just dont want to RP anymore. Some think its nerdy, and some are just to childish to get into it. Personally I like RPing some of the time, but also I dont want to have to type in proper English and punctuation 24/7, it just gets annoying as hell. And this server is community oriented likely as its most attractive facet, thats why i have always came back, to see my friends, otherwise I wouldnt play this game. But once youve done everything about 1000 times Sam it gets boring as hell. And when new updates come out such as Vanirs that get nerfed so bad that people dont even want to play the new content they are left wanting for event items. And another problem is that like in World of Warcraft we dont have quests and such that can help lower level players get decent gear, which makes it very hard for them to rise from nothing to something without help from people. Being a noob and not understanding how the game works, to log on and try to get items that dont even exist for you to lose at a low level makes it really unattractive to play, because its like Russia in the 20th century, theres a huge gap between the rich and the poor. And as long as items are given away in events and such then it will remain that way, the poor will get bought out by the rich and then be left to try to make their way with Ice shields and such. I really think the whole STAT point system needs to be redone into not a 30 stat, but a 100 stat system, where everything scales the same exact way and with gold keys you can hit 20 natural. Then from there make items that currently have 1 str on it give 10 str in the new system or w/e would make it scale perfectly for current gear to give the same stats in a 100 max system and then that would open up massive amounts of gear to have stats that werent so restricted and it would allow new players to get more gear because more gear could be made without it being overpowered.
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