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Old 11-25-2008, 10:43 PM
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Era is not Valikorlia.
If you keep making excuses like that then your server will definitely be stuck in a rut.
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Old 11-25-2008, 10:45 PM
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NEVER blame the players for the server's faults -- that's what Jenn did when Era's playercount sunk to 10 average. But suddenly when managers changed, Era revived to a hefty 70-80 players. So there must be something wrong with the server.
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Either way, players can't be held responsible.
You guys don't know Valikorlia.
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Old 11-25-2008, 10:54 PM
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You guys don't know Valikorlia.
The fact is there's nothing stopping the administration from changing Val for the better. The fact is, if the current player base doesn't like it, the current player base can lump it. The fact is Val could be so much more. The fact is, players complaining is no excuse.
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Old 11-26-2008, 12:11 AM
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You guys don't know Valikorlia.
Quit making shallow assumptions you're starting to get annoying now.
By the way, at least back it up when you say something like that. It's not smart if you don't.
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Old 11-26-2008, 12:53 AM
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The fact is there's nothing stopping the administration from changing Val for the better.
"For the better" is a broad term. Be more specific, then I will tackle the rest of your posts at once as they pretty much come back to this.

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Quit making shallow assumptions you're starting to get annoying now.
Are my shallow assumptions correct or not? Your posts show that you know nothing about Valikorlia. The fact that you only mention playercount just shows you really have no clue what you're talking about.

Once Codein answers my question I will tell you why you're both missing the point.

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By the way, at least back it up when you say something like that. It's not smart if you don't.
Here you go big boy.

Regarding the players holding back the leveling system, which is pretty relevant.


Regarding the players in general.


As a part of my "shallow assumptions", I don't expect you to know what "pre-flood" means.
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Old 11-26-2008, 01:05 AM
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"For the better" is a broad term. Be more specific, then I will tackle the rest of your posts at once as they pretty much come back to this.
I don't know what's for the better when it comes to Valikorlia, because I don't know it, as you've previously stated. I was just arguing that the players are not responsible for the lack of change. All I'm trying to get across is that the administration has a choice and that choice shouldn't be swayed by the players so much.
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Old 11-26-2008, 01:15 AM
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I don't know what's for the better when it comes to Valikorlia, because I don't know it, as you've previously stated. I was just arguing that the players are not responsible for the lack of change. All I'm trying to get across is that the administration has a choice and that choice shouldn't be swayed by the players so much.
They are responsible. Valikorlia's staff does not wanna **** over the few loyal players that are left. Players on Valikorlia prefer too much quality over quantity (in terms of RPers). They don't want to simply attract a ton of people from UN, Zodiac, and Era only to see them all running around ruining RP's.
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Old 11-26-2008, 04:28 PM
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Are my shallow assumptions correct or not? Your posts show that you know nothing about Valikorlia. The fact that you only mention playercount just shows you really have no clue what you're talking about.

Once Codein answers my question I will tell you why you're both missing the point.



Here you go big boy.

Regarding the players holding back the leveling system, which is pretty relevant.


Regarding the players in general.


As a part of my "shallow assumptions", I don't expect you to know what "pre-flood" means.
No need to flex your internet muscles, just because my presence on this forum is rare does't obligate you to make shallow assumptions. Just be because I have only talked about the playercount doesn't show that I know nothing about Valikorlia in any way. Are you not aware of the lack of logic behind assumptions?

Also what the kind of back-up is that? Those "back-ups" are just you rambling that Valikorlia needs an RPG system. Yes it does need one, if Val strictly relies on roleplaying what else is there to do if there is no roleplaying going on? The player gets bored and logs off.

And then you challenge me on some Valikorlia knowledge huh? I'd be glad to retort.

The Valikorlia "flood" is when Clash was ****ing around as usual and then decided "HEY! I want to make a ****ty sand nation that isn't Lerhyn! But how do I make one appear out of thin air? Oh I know! Let's FLOOD THE WHOLE WORLD inexplicably."

And so people got on their pretty little boats and fend off the danger that came by. Of course, that sand nation never came to happen.

To be honest Crono, you were one of the players of Valikorlia I have barely seen online.
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Old 11-26-2008, 04:36 PM
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No need to flex your internet muscles, just because my presence on this forum is rare does't obligate you to make shallow assumptions. Just be because I have only talked about the playercount doesn't show that I know nothing about Valikorlia in any way. Are you not aware of the lack of logic behind assumptions?
This has nothing to do with the forums. It has to do with Valikorlia.

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Also what the kind of back-up is that? Those "back-ups" are just you rambling that Valikorlia needs an RPG system. Yes it does need one, if Val strictly relies on roleplaying what else is there to do if there is no roleplaying going on? The player gets bored and logs off.
Third paragraph mate.

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And then you challenge me on some Valikorlia knowledge huh? I'd be glad to retort.

The Valikorlia "flood" is when Clash was ****ing around as usual and then decided "HEY! I want to make a ****ty sand nation that isn't Lerhyn! But how do I make one appear out of thin air? Oh I know! Let's FLOOD THE WHOLE WORLD inexplicably."
Then you should know why playercount alone is not what Valikorlia needs. The flood was also more than that, Clash wanted to somehow "prove" that Valikorlia needed him. Don't ask me how, as I don't know what he was on about, but it's the explanation he gave me years ago.

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To be honest Crono, you were one of the players of Valikorlia I have barely seen online.
That's because I stopped RPing after 2002 and server-hopped a lot. To this day I still server-hop a lot but I always get on Valikorlia to check it's "progress". I actively played/worked on Val from 2002-2004 but once Clash had taken over I became less and less active. I was still there, though.
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